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    I personally found that letro did nothing for my pre-existing gyno. when I temporarily ran out of ralox, I was up to 2.5mg ED of letro and I swear it was getting worse. so I dropped the letro completely (after tapering) and it seemed to respond better to just plain ralox.

    the gyno developed in a compromised hormonal environment, so I dunno if lowering estro after the fact will do much. I'm gonna be trying a 4 month run of AndroHard coming up pretty soon here (soon as PP resurrection happens) so we'll see

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    With apologies to FPR I'm going to do a bit of hijacking...

    For those of you that followed you know that I finished a 6 week cycle of Triumphalis/Stano/Derm. I responded fairly well and would offer that it is overall a very "dry" stack, as my shoulder gave me some grief but I was pretty lean with some cool striation. But I digress...

    My PCT began approx. a week after my last doses and consisted of Torem (60/60/60/60) and Erase (3/3/3/2/1). The Torem delivered and I have noted a nice surge in random boners, sexual interest and nut size. I felt an AI was prudent and tried to taper down as my body slowly recovered. I have a stack of Test Powder/Anabeta and Con-Cret ready to rock but I hesitate for the following reason... I have definitely begun to experience some sensitivity and soreness in my nips, particularly my left one. As I started the Torem/Erase I began to notice that my nips would get hard as a rock and pointy, especially while showering for some reason... The soreness and itching started shortly after. It lasted approx. 4-5 weeks and I kept hoping that it would subside as the Torem and Erase took hold, thankfully the hardness and overall sensitivity has calmed down. I should point out that there is no hard tissue or lumps. I decided to do a self-exam this morning and noticed that there is definitely still some soreness deep down in the tissue.

    Now, here is part 2 of my saga...I have always had squirty nips, ever since I can remember. Being a little kid I thought it was odd and sorta funny, never really mentioned it to anyone and have never seen a doc about it. Until I started researching on these forums I really had no clue. Never had boy boobs, puffiness, or any other gyno like symptoms. Lets also keep in mind that I have run about a half dozen PH cycles without any symptoms or signs whatsoever...nothing. Now, after this particular cycle there is definite tenderness.

    I'd like to end this nonsense before lumps or hard tissue set in. My thought was to possibly run some moderate dose Ralox and some low dose Caber to try and get things in order. Given my nipple situation I'd think that I might have a bit of a prolactin surge, and the Ralox could address any pre-gyno symptoms. Overall my chest looks fine, fairly close to my avatar pic although I've gained a smidge of weight since. My nipples don't leak or anything silly like that, it's just something I've always had.

    Thoughts? Comments?? Suggestions?? Trust me, I'm all ears!!!

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    Step 1: Comprehensive bloodwork. Prolactin, Test (total and free), E2, DHT, LH, FSH

    Caber, ralox and aromasin would probably get rid of the whatever the problem is but it's best to check out your levels anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBG View Post
    Step 1: Comprehensive bloodwork. Prolactin, Test (total and free), E2, DHT, LH, FSH

    Caber, ralox and aromasin would probably get rid of the whatever the problem is but it's best to check out your levels anyway.
    Right, I forgot to mention I had blood drawn 2 days ago and should have the results this week.

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    What is Caber? I never heard of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    I will jump in on this..

    how about .5mgs of Caber E3 days for 30 days or during the duration. I love caber and think there is no better anti-p on the market for lowering prolactin while having positive side effects as well. Caber can cause multiple orgasms in men. Also our sponsor "evo" has it.

    I have heard alot of complaints with the PH trendione..which doesn't surprise me since it really does convert to tren..the Havoc or Epi..funny enough, epistane was used medically to treat gyno, but I have heard a few complaints of people developing this after a high dosage run..

    Which makes me wonder are these people running other compounds (test base) and jacking up their prolactin, or is something else going on we don't quite know about yet?? or is a different compound being used in place of the Epistane.. all questions I would ask in this situation.

    ^bump for others^
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    Re: Two co-workers with sore nips, advice for them

    Quote Originally Posted by Heady Muscle View Post
    What is Caber? I never heard of it.
    Cabergoline. As for what it is, I think Wes explained it pretty well. Not sure what else you want to know.
    Last edited by burlyman30; 11-09-2013 at 09:43 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burlyman30 View Post
    Cabergoline. As for what it is, I think Wes explained it pretty well. Not sure what else you want to know.
    Thanks. It was the name that was throwing me off. I understood it's effects from Wes, but never heard of the name. I looked on PHF and there is a live thread going on there about.
    Thanks again.
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    Re: Two co-workers with sore nips, advice for them

    Quote Originally Posted by Heady Muscle View Post
    Thanks. It was the name that was throwing me off. I understood it's effects from Wes, but never heard of the name. I looked on PHF and there is a live thread going on there about.
    Thanks again.
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