A hypothetical test cycle

[Jack O'Neill]

Following a post with Weekend, I started looking into test for a hypothetical cycle in sept.2014

I read all posts here and the very interesting Weekend test cycle log post.

It seems that test is only in injection excepted test undecanoate which is in caps.

What do you think of this? Is this equal to test-p + test-e?

[weekend]

Not sure what you're asking? But in my opinion you should quit all these PHs.

I think with slins pinning ED is easy and since timing PCT is easier with short esters that test prop is the way to go for a first AAS cycle. Many will disagree and say go with test e. But I think prop is the better choice when you have a quality product to use.

10 - 12 weeks of prop @ 350 mg should give solid gains.

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Oh if you're asking about test in caps, it's garbage and won't work at all. It's like andro mass except more expensive and without the delivery system. You'd gain next to nothing and be much better off with andromass or some other PH lol

[Jack O'Neill]

Yes indeed, my question was about test in caps, but I must forget it :-)

I will think and search more info about test p. I thought it was better to start with test-p (quick action) and continue with test-e (takes a longer time to make effects) ?

If I decide to go with test, I will propose my plan here on Swole to get your opinion 'cause it's a way I do absolutely not know.

Thanks btw ;-)

[weekend]

Yes indeed, my question was about test in caps, but I must forget it :-)

I will think and search more info about test p. I thought it was better to start with test-p (quick action) and continue with test-e (takes a longer time to make effects) ?

If I decide to go with test, I will propose my plan here on Swole to get your opinion 'cause it's a way I do absolutely not know.

Thanks btw ;-)

personally i think its best to just forget about enanthate as long as you have slins. but if you want to avoid using as much needles as possible you can go with enanthate (or cypionate), you won't need both prop and enanthate (or cypionate).

they do the same thing, i just think having it kick in faster and being able to start PCT fast is ideal.

[Jack O'Neill]

personally i think its best to just forget about enanthate as long as you have slins. but if you want to avoid using as much needles as possible you can go with enanthate (or cypionate), you won't need both prop and enanthate (or cypionate).

they do the same thing, i just think having it kick in faster and being able to start PCT fast is ideal.

Injections are nore really a problem. It's just an....organizational question :-)
Concerning prop, injections are ED isn't it ? What do you mean by "slins" ? AI are required for the cycle ? What other products are required to be safe ?
Is Torem good enough for PCT ?

PM sent btw

[weekend]

slins = insulin needle. 28g is perfect for backloading with a 22 or 23g.

AI is required. i recommend aromasin on cycle and during PCT. i know that prolactin is an issue for me during PCT regardless of what compounds i use, so i have prami or caber around in case. but for most, with test, all youll need is aromasin. especially if you stick to the lower side of doses.

torem is good for PCT. i am personally going to do 25 mg clomid and 60 mg torem for my pct, along with some aromasin and prami and then taper down from there.

injections can be EOD but i think ED is best! stable levels, less sides, better gains, and it becomes routine.

how old are you again?

[Jack O'Neill]

I'm nearly 45

Am I not too old for this kind of cycle?

[weekend]

no, you aren't too old... how is your bloodwork looking?

[Jack O'Neill]

10 - 12 weeks of prop @ 350 mg should give solid gains.

You mean 350mg/week? So 50mg ED

[Jack O'Neill]

no, you aren't too old... how is your bloodwork looking?

Fine just before my actual PH cycle but I will do a blood check before and after this future cycle of course