Potion 9

[hardestgainer]

Just had my first bottle a couple minutes ago, no immediate effects even on an empty stomach.........but damn that is some nasty tasting stuff to drink for relaxation lol



Edit:
About half an hour into and I started getting the full effect, Cdsnuts and I apparently react very similar to this product. Very potent stuff to me

[Cdsnuts]

Just had my first bottle a couple minutes ago, no immediate effects even on an empty stomach.........but damn that is some nasty tasting stuff to drink for relaxation lol



Edit:
About half an hour into and I started getting the full effect, Cdsnuts and I apparently react very similar to this product. Very potent stuff to me

I'm not so sure I could say I take this stuff to relax....per se. To change my head space...yes. There is 200mg of caffeine and 15mg of Yohimbine in it, so it can end up a bit on the speedy side. Especially when you bang two or three in a day, you can start feeling very well cracked out.

I would take one, 20 minutes later I'm dancing in my office by myself like I'm possessed. The others would always be followed with some alcohol to mitigate the stimulants.

I definitely over did it on these.....such is my personality.

I've since changed to a more healthful product. High dose Theanine is my new thing now. Been getting great results from this instead of having drinks. Best part.....no hangover.

How was the rest of your trip?

[nate3993]

High dose theanine you say??? Tell me more haha

[weekend]

theanine containing melatonin supplements always did more sleepwise for me than ones without. FWIW.

[Cdsnuts]

High dose theanine you say??? Tell me more haha

You ever get on the kratom train?

Well, as far as source, I've just picked up a bottle from my health food store, but I have a bunch of stuff from liftmode coming today or tomorrow, so I'll be able to compare. Lift modes stuff is usually very legit, so we'll see.

I'll drop 400-500mg, wait a half hour or so, and then have some caffeine. For me, it's great. A nice smooth feeling of calm serenity washes over me, and then the caffeine kicks in and I get a razor sharp edge of focus added to my already very relaxed mind. It's great.

I've decided my soon to be 37 year old mind has had enough abuse for a few lifetimes. I'm gonna move into the natural supplements for my need to unwind. Maybe even try meditation.

Don't worry. I won't come around here talking about the "oneness of all."

[somm]

The supplement, Amino Freak, has L-Theanine in it and is labeled as having "very powerful" an anti-catabolic/anti-cortisol properties. I always thought it was just for relaxation.....pretty cool if it works!

[Cdsnuts]

I should also mention that I've been noticing quite the boost in libido since I've started dosing like this. FYI

[nate3993]

naw. i never got kratom. i wanted to get kratom to get a downer high, but i recently just got some hydrocodone from a friend and found that they just make me sleepy, and its not a high I care about.....which is probably a good thing.

and don't just meditate...find a binaural/isochronic beat to listen to while meditating. MAJOR increase in 3rd eye stimulation. i also find that when I'm stoned and gonna be going to bed soon is when i like to pop in my headphones, listen to the binaural beat and fall asleep to it. works phenomenally. do it man. totally do it....ive made such leaps in bounds in my life and i know meditation, healthy diet, detoxing from environmental chemicals by using natural soaps, conditioner, etc has also all greatly helped my pineal gland and in return amazing clarity on life and awareness of the things around me is all credited to it.

[Cdsnuts]

naw. i never got kratom. i wanted to get kratom to get a downer high, but i recently just got some hydrocodone from a friend and found that they just make me sleepy, and its not a high I care about.....which is probably a good thing.

and don't just meditate...find a binaural/isochronic beat to listen to while meditating. MAJOR increase in 3rd eye stimulation. i also find that when I'm stoned and gonna be going to bed soon is when i like to pop in my headphones, listen to the binaural beat and fall asleep to it. works phenomenally. do it man. totally do it....ive made such leaps in bounds in my life and i know meditation, healthy diet, detoxing from environmental chemicals by using natural soaps, conditioner, etc has also all greatly helped my pineal gland and in return amazing clarity on life and awareness of the things around me is all credited to it.

I'm very familiar with brain entrainment. I have a program that I had gotten maybe.....ten years ago, called the Neuroprogrammer. If you're into binaural beats, you should definitely check it out. This program is the Mack Dad of them all. You purchase it and download it directly to your desktop. The interface allows you to go through and pick what state you want....studying, energy, meditation, relaxation, sleep, etc, etc. Hundreds of different programs that can be used with or without headphones. You can download your picks into your itunes to use on your devices. I've been listening to a program I created in 2011 over my Bose ipod dock every night while going to sleep.

As far as the Kratom, it's not exactly like hydro. There is a stimulating come up which is very enjoyable while at the same time being very relaxing. It's very different than your typical opiates. Regardless though, it can be just as addicting, so probably a better idea to just steer clear.

[hardestgainer]

I'm not so sure I could say I take this stuff to relax....per se. To change my head space...yes. There is 200mg of caffeine and 15mg of Yohimbine in it, so it can end up a bit on the speedy side. Especially when you bang two or three in a day, you can start feeling very well cracked out.

I would take one, 20 minutes later I'm dancing in my office by myself like I'm possessed. The others would always be followed with some alcohol to mitigate the stimulants.

I definitely over did it on these.....such is my personality.

I've since changed to a more healthful product. High dose Theanine is my new thing now. Been getting great results from this instead of having drinks. Best part.....no hangover.

How was the rest of your trip?

Ya I agree, there is no way if I really was taking something for relaxation, that Id choose this. To me, this is something Id take before going to a big social event or maybe even pre-gaming(havent taken this with alcohol kinda scared to). Once this stiff kicked in for me, the next half hour or so I had very high energy, super social, and overall just having a really really good time lol. Downside was on the back-end of it, started getting nausea but I took it on an empty stomach so maybe next time i'll give it a shot with just a bit of food in my stomach or have a couple bites to eat about half an hour in to prevent it.

Truthfully, if Im just wanting something for relaxation my go to product has always been mj, Im just patiently waiting for WA to officially make it legal here for everyone. I actually logged a Theanine product before on bb.com a few years back, had pretty decent results but kept having to increase the dosages.