No libido after PCT don't know what to do.

[nate3993]

Interesting u back nolvadex.....I seem to remember u saying in the past that Nolva was kind of weak and either Clomid or torem should be the go to.

[Jelisej]

Interesting u back nolvadex.....I seem to remember u saying in the past that Nolva was kind of weak and either Clomid or torem should be the go to.

I'm not sure which post you are referring to; you probably misread something.

[nate3993]

This was a while back....maybe it was someone else...seems that most people on here either use Clomid or torem and very few use Nolva. But I had thought the general consensus was that Nolva was meh as a test booster...also...I hardly see you or others rec. Nolva...almost always torem or Clomid...I guess just my own perceived observations?

[Brazilianguy]

Other thing I'd like to know does the need to urinate a lot through the day is related to high e2/enlarged prostate or to low aldosterone? Because I think I read that lower urine flow and the desire to urinate a lot is relate to enlarged prostate and high estradiol will have negative effects on the prostate.

Also my prolactin increased and I read that prolactin follows E2 if E2 increase the prolactin will increase too.
When I took SERMS I had TSh 2.4 a lot of people would say I was hypothyroid but I felt fine about 4 days with libido, energy, morning and random wood.
I'm not sure but I think the SERMS increased my Total Testosterone but also increased my E2 and prolactin and they didn't decrease since then also my TSH increased it makes me think that happened an increase of estrogens in my body leading more TSH.

I don't want to change my SHBG (20) levels I think they are fine and my free testosterone is also good. I just wanna see if decreasing my e2 from 29 to 20 or less will increase my libido, energy, start my morning wood and see if will impact my thyroid too.

My friend has the same problem his TSH increased and his prolactin now is always between 17 or 22 I don't know where is his SHBG but his TSH is a little bit higher than mine he has 4.8 but his prolactin is also higher than mine. Do you think high prolactin can also change the TSH?

[Jelisej]

This was a while back....maybe it was someone else...seems that most people on here either use Clomid or torem and very few use Nolva. But I had thought the general consensus was that Nolva was meh as a test booster...also...I hardly see you or others rec. Nolva...almost always torem or Clomid...I guess just my own perceived observations?

I used SERM twice, both tamoxifene. Reason why I recommend clomid most of time is pure politics, main reason is clomid has more studies behind so its more reassuring to people and makes my life easier. Also some people have fears of cancer from tamoxifene, which I think is overrated big time. This is also one of reasons why doctors rarely prescribe tamoxifene. In reality- both compounds are very similar, really. Toremifene I dont mention as I dont have enough info etc...

[Jelisej]

When hippotalamus is sending signals to pituary to make more thyroid hormones, pituary makes TSH and along TSH prolactin gets made as well- more TSH more prolactin.
When you used SERMS at first you enjoyed it, but then you body was not able to sustain higher hormone levels becase low resting metabolic rate- and this is why it went sideways. I explained that earlier and basically you need to improve your resting metabolic rate.

As for frequent urinating it could be lot of stuff, its impossible for me to determine it. If your prostate is enlarged than its pressing down on your bladder and thus reducing its capacity, it could be low aldosterone- tough very likely you would have low blood pressure as well, thirst (as your body would be unable to hold water) or sometimes you can even have swollen face as body is desperate to hold onto water.
It can be neurological or stress related, or infection or maybe you dont tolerate something well- for example if I have energy drink with lot of caffeine I piss every few minutes.

[Brazilianguy]

Jelisej I'm thinking about to use arimidex to see if I can get a better T/E2 ratio.
When I was on SERMS I was taking 0.5mg twice a week but my E2 got 30 and before it was 38. The best number I could achieve was 29 or 27. But Phil told me that my SHBG needs a better E2 like 15 - 20.

Do you know how can I use arimidex the best protocol for it I know it is very individual but I mean when I start to get a better libido and morning wood should I just stop taking it or reduce the dosage/frequency?

Do you know any vitamin that could help with the e2 balance? Because I would like to tapper off of arimidex and not taking anything for the rest of my life.

I also have eye floaters since I got all this problems do you think it could be from high E2?

Thank you so much

[Brazilianguy]

My latest thyroid test I did it last week. I was just using proviron and tribulus.
The interesting is that my thyroid hormones came like the first blood test I did when I got these problems. But I also had low testosterone and prolactin (I will try to do another blood test with more information) and then I took tamoxifen and Vitamin E (1000iu) and then my morning wood came back, random erections, more libido, energy etc.


TSh: 2.4 (decreased)
T4 livre: 1.1
T3 livre: 0.34 (0,20 a 0,40)
RT3: 0,3 (0.1 a 0,35) ng/ml

I read that zinc deficiency can cause thyroid problems, higher estrogen, lower testosterone, maybe even increasing RT3 (I need to search more about it) and one sign of zinc deficiency is white signs in the nails I have some of these signs. Do you think if I supplement zinc I could see an even better thyroid results, libido, morning wood etc? I also read that zinc is what helps the body to produce more white semen fluid. My semen is wattery and more transparent.

[Jelisej]

I explained, very clearly what I think that problem was. I may be wrong, thats why is good to see someone who is trained and certified to deal with these problems, i can only give you some directions. Wheter you are deficient in zinc only blood test can tell you, supplementing yourself can sometimes do more harm than good- if you add one vitamin and mineral than it can lead to deficiency in some other, some minerals need others to work, some dont work well with others etc- its always best to get minerals/vitamins from diet...

Eye floaters can be caused by many things- it is one of sides that sometimes happen with SERMS, especially if person was taking high doses.

Best thing to control E2 is first if possible prevent underlying cause that is causing aromatisation, or maybe reducing xenoestrogens from diet, if not than sometimes eating some green foods helps it, if not than best to take AI, preferably aromasin.

[Brazilianguy]

Jelisej why some people when they take arimidex they feel joint pain, no libido, even more dificulty to get it up.
I'm taking very high dosage of arimidex and I'm sure my estradiol is 0 now. But I don't get the side effects like joint pain, and no erection.

I saw one guy that had the same thing even with high dosage of arimidex he didn't change his puffy nipples and didn't have joint pain. But when he took androhard with arimidex he felt libido increase, no ED, but the arimidex dosage was high and then he felt the joint pain and then the libido and ED issues.

What I don't understand is that proviron is DHT but it don't make you dry like androhard can do also there are many others DHT steroids that can make it. Why that happened even if both raise DHT they do different stuffs in our body?