Time to Stock Up?

[longBallLima]

Let us not forget the very powerfull MLB whose views on PED's is well known, however, I think it's more to do with "safety"...the Gov't knows whats best for us, right ?

unfortunately I think the gov't is the enforcing arm, but corporate is really dictating the agenda here. Much as I don't love government, I'd much rather have the govt pushing its agenda than big corporations and lobbies.

[hardestgainer]

That just means theres a good possibility for more people to make a killing charging people 5 times as much once they're banned.


Seems like we should be more focused on bigger issues than something as trivial as whether or not adults should be given the choice to educate themselves to use pro-hormones to help reach their athletic/physique goals.......like idk maybe out healthcare system that went from flawed to completely fucked, or our national debt because for some reason that cant decrease spending even in prosperous economic cycles like we're supposed to.

[Sperwer]

Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2014 (S. 2012) - GovTrack.us


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[h2s]

I wouldn't freak out yet.

[Sperwer]

Roger that. As the article i referenced indicates, the probability that ANY bill becomes law is very small. The article would be far more informative if it adjusted for, as in this case, a bill that (i) is really just a "logical" amendment of an existing law; (ii) has as a principal sponsor the moving force behind the existing law; (iii) who also happens to be the chief political protector of the industry involved (a lot of which is located in his electoral district); the major players in the industry support the bill; and that has been three years in gathering support from all interested parties (who define their opponents in advance as criminals). It still may be a statistical longshot, generally speakin, that the bill is enacted, but imo it's looking good to beat the odds


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[Bucks]

Thought I would bump this up since it was in the news yesterday. Not looking good gents.


https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr4771


List I pulled off PHF with the details if you dont want to read the whole thing.

6-oxo
ATD
6-Bromo 5a
6-Bromo 1,4 diene
I think there is just spelling mistakes on products here cause some list 5a some list 1,4 diene, pretty sure it's 1-4 diene don't think there is a 5a
Halo
P-mag
Mecha
Oxyguno
Halo again
Superdrol(already banned dafuq)
5b isomer Superdrol
Epistane
Furaza - I guess their considering the THP an ester
3b hydroxy dhea based Tren product
3 hydroxy phera
Halo again they really don't like halo
Trendione
Not sure what the 18 homo is, think they were going for Max LMG but fucked up
No clue what the 6a methyl dione is
The one/D-plex
Proto
No idea on the isoxazole
No idea on the isoxazole
This one isn't chemically possibly, it's some stupid 4 ene 4 hydroxy dione prostanozol
Some 4 double bonded prostanozol
Prostanozol listed as 17b hydroxy vs thp ether

[Bucks]

Good article I read on another board.



<i>by Geoff Roberts</i><br />
The question, “Why do all the good supplements get taken off the shelf?” is one that I and anyone else who works in the supplement industry hears on a weekly basis. The answer to this question, for anyone heavily invested in this industry, should be easy to come by. However, for the average person who, devastatingly enough, gets their information from the media or any other “mainstream” source, the answer is not so clear.<br />
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Let us establish right off the bat that the media or any other mainstream source of information is rarely truth, period. They are simply persuasive forms of education which teach whatever the people or industries with the most money want the public to be taught. Let us not forget that the media once “taught” us that marijuana was as dangerous a drug as any other illicit street drug and far more dangerous than alcohol. Assuming a person has a functioning brain, surely they fully understand the extent to which alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana. Marijuana is responsible for so few deaths that they are not even worth mentioning, while alcohol on the other hand will kill hundreds of people in the time it takes to read this article. Yet, there are still people out there who will argue that marijuana is more dangerous than alcohol, further proving the power and inaccuracy of mainstream information. This is merely one of countless examples. These points will be of use later on as we answer the common question of why “good” supplements are removed from the market.<br />
The main reason that many effective supplements are pulled from the market is simple in theory. Generally speaking, a person who uses supplements is far less likely to need prescription drugs, due to the fact that many supplements aid a person’s condition or “health” in a similar fashion too pharmaceuticals. This is substantial because this takes money directly out of the pharmaceutical company’s pockets. Unfortunately, the Food and Drug Association, which is in major part responsible for the banning of supplements, is in bed with these large pharmaceutical companies. This is due to multiple factors, including the actuality that FDA earns much of its profit from the “regulation” of these pharmaceutical drugs and little to none from the supplement industry. A good analogy would be to think of the pharmaceutical industry as being the oil and gas companies while the supplement industry are the people making electric cars or solar powered cars. They are quintessential opponents in every sense of the word. Unfortunately for the supplement industry, the power of the pharmaceutical industry in comparison is like matching an F-18 Hornet with a Red Rider BB gun. The supplement industry is essentially rendered helpless at the hands of the pharmaceutical industry, FDA, and their central outlet, mainstream media.<br />
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Supplements that have felt the FDA’s wrath in the last decade or so include ephedra, 1,3 dimethyl, and Hydroxycut Hardcore. The most comical of these bannings is without question Hydroxycut. The fact that over nine million people were using it and they could only find 30 or so cases of liver stress is laughable enough, but the media reported that the ingredient hydroxycitric acid was responsible for causing these liver issues. Fast forward roughly four years and Dr. God, err umm Oz, claims on his show that Garcinia Cambogia (the source of hydroxycitric acid) is a “new” miracle weight loss ingredient which melts away body fat without diet or exercise. So at this point you have the same people who four years earlier rushed into their local vitamin store furious that they would sell such a “dangerous” product, coming in for the same exact product that put them in such grave danger in the first place! Good old mainstream information and its sheep-like followers.<br />
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1,3 Dimethyl is another recent victim of the pharmaceutical companies and FDA. Tens of thousands of people used this product for a general pick me up, fat loss, and pre-workout stimulant for years, with no real issues to speak of. Suddenly, when 1,3 reached its peak popularity, a few soldiers apparently suffered from heart attacks with this ingredient in their systems. To recap, tens of millions of regular people, teenagers, couch potatoes, elite athletes, etc. take this supplement for several years void of any problems then suddenly multiple soldiers, only soldiers, have heart attacks from the stuff at for all intents and purposes, the same time. This should reek of fishiness like a Japanese fish market to any logical thinking individual.<br />
Circling back to the media, both of these cases were put on constant display by the media and newspapers. Due to the fantastically efficient level of brainwashing the media has bestowed on the general public, very few people were able to see past the emotion evoking “DEATH” statements and think critically about the situation. Where were the people questioning why only soldiers had heart attacks from 1,3, while millions upon millions of other people used it without issue? Few people questioned why Hydroxycut was banned after a number of “alleged” deaths measured in the single digits, while alcohol is completely legal as it kills thousands of people per day. The desired side effect (no pun intended) of this media induced fear of these specific products is a generalized fear of the entire supplement industry. The same industry responsible for less than one death per year, while pharmaceutical drugs account for millions of deaths on a yearly basis. Once again representing the stranglehold mainstream outlets have on the easily manipulated minds of the general public.<br />
In a nutshell, some supplements are too effective and get too popular for their own good. At a certain point of popularity, the witch hunt begins with the task of finding arbitrary links between this supplement and serious side effects or even death, similar to linking apples to death because a person dies in their home with apples in their cupboard. Do not be surprised if you favorite supplement, which is perfectly safe, suddenly starts slaughtering people and gets pulled from the market. In closing, next time you are watching or reading any form of mainstream information, it may behoove you to stop and switch your information source to a Dr. Seuss book in order to possibly find some truth.

[PM Supplements]

Not looking good, HR 4771 passed the House yesterday..

Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2014 (H.R. 4771) - GovTrack.us

[necropuppy]

Well that's dick.

[BBG]

It'll make it MUCH easier for them to ban any new prohormones that come out as well.