Considering a cycle, first timer

[KGPL]

Today I talked to someone around my age at the gym that ran a couple cycles of prohormones. They surprisingly opened up about it and had a similar opinion regarding the "addiction" it becomes. He's addicted to the gains on cycle, which is the only reason why he ran more.

As for side effects, he seemed to be pretty smart. Only thing he said that went "wrong" were some pretty serious acne breakouts on his back, but he was able to keep these under control with sun exposure and multiple baths (I think he used salt?).

[nate3993]

Acne on cycle is generally one of 2 things. Either your predisposed to breaking out.....or estrogen isn't in check. I know for myself, as long as I have my estro in check, I get little to no acne.

[KGPL]

Did more research. To be as safe as possible, this is what I came up with. Will give it some time to decide how my gains are while implementing band work into my training, but this is just the theoretical cycle.

Fish oil
-3 caps a day

Creatine
-5g a day as usual

Mutivitamin
-once a day

Iron labs cycle support
-4 caps a day starting a week before cycle, continue throughout cycle.

-IronMagLabs Epi andro rx
4/5/5/6/6/6(should I add another week to "taper" off with a lower dose)

-Erase pro
1 cap a day, starting 3 days before ending cycle. Continue for 3-4 weeks

-PES test booster
Use throughout PCT

-ZMA
use throughout pct

So here, my "pct" would last 3-4 weeks. Should it go longer?

Calories would be around maintenance, focusing on hitting ~250g protein a day, carbs pre workout, and lots of fat from fish sources like salmon. Being lacrose intolerant and intolerant to gluten, I'll be sure to completely eliminate them.

Does dosing timing matter? Obviously in the morning, but should it be taken pre or post workout for the second dose?

[tallstraw]

Did more research. To be as safe as possible, this is what I came up with. Will give it some time to decide how my gains are while implementing band work into my training, but this is just the theoretical cycle.

Fish oil
-3 caps a day

Creatine
-5g a day as usual(I'd save this for PCT)

Mutivitamin
-once a day

Iron labs cycle support
-4 caps a day starting a week before cycle, continue throughout cycle.

-IronMagLabs Epi andro rx
4/5/5/6/6/6(should I add another week to "taper" off with a lower dose)

-Erase pro
1 cap a day, starting 3 days before ending cycle. Continue for 3-4 weeks

-PES test booster
Use throughout PCT

-ZMA
use throughout pct

So here, my "pct" would last 3-4 weeks. Should it go longer?

Calories would be around maintenance, focusing on hitting ~250g protein a day, carbs pre workout, and lots of fat from fish sources like salmon. Being lacrose intolerant and intolerant to gluten, I'll be sure to completely eliminate them.

Does dosing timing matter? Obviously in the morning, but should it be taken pre or post workout for the second dose?

Great physique man.

[weekend]

this looks good man

you'll be fine with what you have laid out

i would grab some tococaps and some resveratrol supplement

that shit always worked well for me

[KGPL]

this looks good man

you'll be fine with what you have laid out

i would grab some tococaps and some resveratrol supplement

that shit always worked well for me

I really hope I don't regret this later, but I believe I'm going to go through with this cycle.

How do tococaps compare to nizoral?


How do I time the Epiandro in regards to working out? I lift around 3:00. First dose at 6AM, second at 1:30? Or just do it post workout?

[ctAL]

good luck OP............i turn 29 next may an im still a pussy to PH and AAS ive only ran AH v3 from primordial performance which is why i know about this forum/am a member...........i love the knowledge here

ill see how your run goes first, i have gyno from puberty also, ive built my physique so much over the years its not even noticed by other people or bothers me like that anymore

its amazing how far ive come from HS days im big and lean an strong im kinda bored of bein natty though

btw you look AWESOME for 18.5. everyone has a weak point bro remember that.......just work harder at it

[KGPL]

Here's the official cycle I officially plan on taking.

Will be taking fish oil, creatine, and a multi as usual.

1 Week Before Cycle:
Iron labs liver support- 2 caps a day

Cycle
PN Epi Andro
2/3/3/3/3/3
Erase Pro
0/0/0/0/1/1
Nizoral: Once every 3 days
Iron Labs Cycle support
2/2/2/2/2/2 (Raise if blood pressure goes out of whack)
DS Lean Xtreme
2/2/2/2/2/2

PCT
Erase Pro 1/1/1/1
Vital Labs 3x PCT 4/4/4/4/2
Nizoral: Every 3 days


I might run a test booster in PCT, but I doubt I'll need to. How does this look? Sticking to OTC PCT.

I tossed the Lean Xtreme in because of how much I love it. Really sheds off some water weight, bringing out the vascularity even more so. Should I use this on cycle or in PCT though?

[ctAL]

epi andro solo at those numbers seems like a waste of time........from what i gather

am i understand this correct?

PN Epi Andro
2/3/3/3/3/3

is that pills per day?? or you mean multiply x 2?

so 4/6/6/6/6/6

[KGPL]

epi andro solo at those numbers seems like a waste of time........from what i gather

am i understand this correct?

PN Epi Andro
2/3/3/3/3/3

is that pills per day?? or you mean multiply x 2?

so 4/6/6/6/6/6

It's the PN epiandro, twice the dosage of the IML version.

2 each day the first week, then three for the next five weeks.