TUDCA/UDCA On cycle vs PCT

[ryhigh]

Does anyone remember a thread on when it was better to use UDCA/TUDCA? I might be going crazy but I thought it was here on SS, and if im not mistaken the reasons were discussed which is better. If im tripping and no one remembers, please tell me but don't judge lol Thanks!

[VayneZ]

Burly's log touched a bit on it:
Burly's Mechabol Experiment - Page 10
(scroll down to post# 95).

Mark and I were curious about this as well. I believe Jake from AL recommended it during and DJM post....

I'm still debating if I'll run it during my Mechabol cycle or during PCT....

[ryhigh]

Burly's log touched a bit on it:
Burly's Mechabol Experiment - Page 10
(scroll down to post# 95).

Mark and I were curious about this as well. I believe Jake from AL recommended it during and DJM post....

I'm still debating if I'll run it during my Mechabol cycle or during PCT....

Awesome! Thank you! I keep my sanity for another day.. lol

Has anyone else since come up with any new info?

My good friend Jelisej with infinite amounts of knowledge? All the other swole bright minded friends anything interesting or new?

[ryhigh]

Burly's log touched a bit on it:
Burly's Mechabol Experiment - Page 10
(scroll down to post# 95).

Mark and I were curious about this as well. I believe Jake from AL recommended it during and DJM post....

I'm still debating if I'll run it during my Mechabol cycle or during PCT....

To me it makes the most sense to run during PCT, but then again Jakes a stand up guy and very knowledgeable so doing what he recommends also makes sense lol

[O.N.]

We sell TUDCA in the form of cycle guard see here: Cycle Guard Wicked Supplements

The ingredient break down is:
Tauroursodeoxycholic Acid (TUDCA) 125mg*
Polyenylphosphatidylcholine (PPC) 450mg*
N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) 600mg *
S-Adenosyl-L-Methionine Disulfate Tosylate (SAMe) 200mg*

In my opinion since when used consistently, TUDCA eventually becomes the predominant bile acid in the liver and in general circulation thus if you are causing liver damage whilst on cycle you are better off taking it during this time of stress additionally with the SAMe combined it has an additive effect when used alongside TUDCA.

You may if you wish want to continue taking it once you finish your cycle to repair anything that wasn't able to be repaired on cycle.

A recent review we had was from someone on a comp prep who claimed his urine was basically coka cola color and within days of taking cycle guard it cleared it up see here:
liver support

brother i was pissing what looked like coca cola colour at one stage... i jumped onto 3 cycle guard a day and it almost instantly cleared up to a yellowish... i was STILL on high doses... upped my water to 4L a day and took 6 and it comes out clear now

[ryhigh]

We sell TUDCA in the form of cycle guard see here: Cycle Guard Wicked Supplements

The ingredient break down is:
Tauroursodeoxycholic Acid (TUDCA) 125mg*
Polyenylphosphatidylcholine (PPC) 450mg*
N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) 600mg *
S-Adenosyl-L-Methionine Disulfate Tosylate (SAMe) 200mg*

In my opinion since when used consistently, TUDCA eventually becomes the predominant bile acid in the liver and in general circulation thus if you are causing liver damage whilst on cycle you are better off taking it during this time of stress additionally with the SAMe combined it has an additive effect when used alongside TUDCA.

You may if you wish want to continue taking it once you finish your cycle to repair anything that wasn't able to be repaired on cycle.

A recent review we had was from someone on a comp prep who claimed his urine was basically coka cola color and within days of taking cycle guard it cleared it up see here:
liver support

Awesome, thank you I appreciate it! I actually was just checking out your Cycle Guard earlier when referring someone to your Toco Caps. Im going to try it out next, I normally use Aegis but rather try Cycle Guard this time.

In your opinion is here a limit one should take it, for example 6 week cycle plus 4 week PCT.. Is 10 weeks too long and potentially problematic?

[markam]

Does anyone remember a thread on when it was better to use UDCA/TUDCA? I might be going crazy but I thought it was here on SS, and if im not mistaken the reasons were discussed which is better. If im tripping and no one remembers, please tell me but don't judge lol Thanks!

I will say that Antaeus use TUDCA (and other stuff) in Aegis, so I'd use that. Mind you, I've only ever seen TUDCA for sale, anyway. Dosage should be 500mgs ed in separate doses with a meal with plenty of fats, preferably not KFC

I think Jake (Antaeus) intends Aegis to be used to keep the liver functioning properly on cycle. If Aegis was used on cycle he advised against using it in PCT.

I very much rate Mecha and Triumphalis, but Talos's profile looks a bit odd to me. It contains 50mgs Reversatrol, and the only purpose of that amount is to be able to put Reversatrol on the label, IMO. (Reversatrol is poorly absorbed, orally). But maybe it works synergistically with the other ingredients???


The other big hitter for cycle support is SAM-e @ 400mgs ed. This is not cheap and It may cost the same to buy it on it's own as buying Antaeus Talos which contains it. NAC @1200mgs is cheap and I always use it, Hawthorn berry and Saw Palmetto, also.

[ryhigh]

I will say that Antaeus use TUDCA (and other stuff) in Aegis, so I'd use that. Mind you, I've only ever seen TUDCA for sale, anyway. Dosage should be 500mgs ed in separate doses with a meal with plenty of fats, preferably not KFC

I think Jake (Antaeus) intends Aegis to be used to keep the liver functioning properly on cycle. If Aegis was used on cycle he advised against using it in PCT.

I very much rate Mecha and Triumphalis, but Talos's profile looks a bit odd to me. It contains 50mgs Reversatrol, and the only purpose of that amount is to be able to put Reversatrol on the label, IMO. (Reversatrol is poorly absorbed, orally). But maybe it works synergistically with the other ingredients???


The other big hitter for cycle support is SAM-e @ 400mgs ed. This is not cheap and It may cost the same to buy it on it's own as buying Antaeus Talos which contains it. NAC @1200mgs is cheap and I always use it, Hawthorn berry and Saw Palmetto, also.

Thank you my friend! For Talos I never really did my due diligence on researching the ingredients, ive always had a positive experience with AL so used Talos off reputation. The last 3 cycles ive used both Aegis and Talos and things have been smooth as can be. I'm going to try out Cycle Guard this time.

I also really like Mecha, haven't tried Triump tho but very eager on doing so. There's a big assortment of new hormones I'm excited to try. Most likely next cycle will be TD Trest, Phera, and proviron or mestebol. But who knows yet.

I was talking to a friend about TUDCA and remembered Burly's thread so wanted to see what/if there were any new developments

[Jelisej]

UDCA/TUDCA has nothing to do with PCT- it is there to protect liver and prevent or slow down damage done to liver from methylated steroids, medications etc... So whenever you use anything that is bad for liver these things should be usedalon few other bits. They can be used all year round, no problem. I always suggest people to use it during cycle and beggining of PCT- and then use "essentiale forte" which basically helps regenerate liver.

[ryhigh]

UDCA/TUDCA has nothing to do with PCT- it is there to protect liver and prevent or slow down damage done to liver from methylated steroids, medications etc... So whenever you use anything that is bad for liver these things should be usedalon few other bits. They can be used all year round, no problem. I always suggest people to use it during cycle and beggining of PCT- and then use "essentiale forte" which basically helps regenerate liver.

Here is, thank you appreciate it! I know it's not part of a pct protocol, I was just trying to figure out what if any benefit it would have during, as opposed to on cycle.


When in pct do you recommend using for "essentiale forte" like the 1st week of?


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