Test-e and water bloating

[longBallLima]

No, discard the liquid and reconstitute with bac water

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[Jack O'Neill]

Thx LongBallLima.

Which would be the best dosage for HCG and Masteron for a cycle like that :
W1-W10 : test-e monday, thursday 250mg
W9-W13 : test-p E2D

[Jelisej]

HCG 3X 250 IU

I would suggest you to combine masteron with with test e- meaning to use same ester which is enthanate so ran it W1-W10, and inject them together, same dosage- you can adjust dose after if you feel need for it.
IMO it seems that more than 600 mg of either does not translate in more gains- and with masteron more than 600 mg is likely to make night sweats worse or more pronounced, also it may bring cortisol down too much which can make one feel bit lazy, bit lethargic.
using test p at the end is good idea, basically thats the best way to allow all other stuff to clears out of system and more easy to calculate start of PCT.

[Jack O'Neill]

Jelisej,
Do you mean 2 injections the same day? Mast and test-e
Or, is it existing enthanate test+mast together?

I planned to inject 2x/week (2x250mg test-e)

If I inject HCG (up to 3x/week), it may be too much injections each day for my 1st cycle :-(

[Jelisej]

Jelisej,
Do you mean 2 injections the same day? Mast and test-e
Or, is it existing enthanate test+mast together?

I planned to inject 2x/week (2x250mg test-e)

If I inject HCG (up to 3x/week), it may be too much injections each day for my 1st cycle :-(

I mean inject masteron enthanate in same dosage and frequency as test e- so if you are going to do 2x 250mg of test e than do same with masteron e- draw 250 mg of test e than draw mast e in same syringe and inject them together.

My advice is to fill lot of syringes in advance (with both compound) with one needle, and then throw that needle (as it is dull) and put unopened syringes- so injecting is much more easier and painless

you could do 3X a week (mon-wed-fri)- it would be easier to remember, you inject HCG before or after test/mast.
and you can rotate injection site, for example- left delt, right delt, left gluteus right gluteus so each injection site has time to "recover", which also means less pain

All this may sound complicated but its quite simple,

[Jack O'Neill]

I think I understood and it seems to be simple indeed (but lots of injections for a 1st time however)

Btw Masteron-e is VERY expensive vs test-e. 2x250x10=5000mg of mast-e!

This cycle will be I think too much expensive with mast-e

[tallstraw]

You really don't need 500mg of mast lol. You're already cutting without it. Why not go with just 250 or so a week of Mast E, and use it to combat estrogen, free up some test, and give you a little mood boost? No reason to go with 500 a week.

[Jack O'Neill]

If I take test-e on W1-W10 and test-p on W10-W13, should I take mast all along the cycle (W1 - W13)?

And could I take mast-e with test-p the 3 last weeks?

Sorry for all the questions but I want to be sure before starting a cycle like that

[Jelisej]

One more time- take mast e together with test e- when you stop test e stop mast e as well; test propionate is there to "close gap" between cycle and start PCT, basically it takes while for enthanate ester clears of system.

As for masteron, dose less than 300 mg is not worth it IMO. Tough masteron e is not "must have" so you can drop it altogether. Masteron is not used to control estrogen, and it is very poor AI- its used to increase strenght, add some "dry muscles" and to keep some of the "dry look", if you do evrything right you should keep most of gains.

[tallstraw]

Jack, although very intelligent, Jelis words aren't the gospel. Do some research of your own man. Best advice I was ever given. Very many would disagree with the less than 300mg dose, Many use Mast at 250mg, for the purposes I said.