Test-e and water bloating

[Jack O'Neill]

Hi All,

It's a long time I didn't posted here but I always followed new posts with real interest.

I decided to go to a test cycle after several PH cycles (with results closed to zero :-( )

In my last bulk cycles (Dienazone especially), I really bloated and I was big like a gorilla. All has disappeared once I was in PCT. Very expensive cycle for nothing.

Here is my question :
I wanted to follow a test-e cycle 250mg E3D for 10 or 12 weeks. Maybe 100mg EOD of test-p for weeks 10-13.

Anastrozole 1mg EOD for all the cycle (w/PCT)

PCT:
Torem 60/60/30/30/30
Clomid 25/25/25/12.5/12.5

Is it possible to follow this cycle without bloating??? I don't like this.

All my stats are in my old detailed logs here.

Thank you

[Jelisej]

You should not have a bloat from testosterone enthanate, keep estrogen at check- if bloat still happens it means you have problems with adrenals- tough HCG stimulates adrenals as well as thyroid so bloat should not happen, minor water retention yes, thats all.
IMO most simple and best protocol for test e in either HRT or on cycle is mon-wed-fri, same with HCG which can be injected before or after test e.
Optionally you can add low dose of masteron e.
Other thing that I suggest to people is to add one bottle of test prop with start one-or-two weeks before stopping test e, and run it for additional 2-3 weeks- so test e clears of system, last dose of test prop should be small one, followed by HCG and 2-3 days after you can start PCT.

[Jack O'Neill]

I think this is ^ a bit complicated for a 1st test cycle.

1st cycle, 1st injections, ...

But thanks Jelisej for your smart answer

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[hossam]

you have to eliminate the salt or Sodium in your diet
but still you will have little water retention

[Jack O'Neill]

A little retention is fine. What I don't want is to bloat like a balloon!

[Bucks]

Jack good to see your back for another run. Hopefully this one gives you a little more of some positive gains.

[nate3993]

U ain't gonna be gorilla bloated with that dosing and AI. You'll be fine

[Jelisej]

I think this is ^ a bit complicated for a 1st test cycle.

1st cycle, 1st injections,

Erhm, not sure which part you find complicated -cycle or bloat explanation- so I'll emphasise that HCG must be used during your cycle. best is 3X a week 250 IU, tough you can try to follow E3D test. shots.

your PCT is not long enough- I'm not sure about your age but if you are over 40 then recovery is much slower- you should do minimum of 8 weeks of clomid, maybe 10 weeks... It sounds a lot, but in reality there should be no problems or sides as long as you dont take to much- 12.5 mg a day, or 25eod is enough, you can mix with other SERM if you want more.

As for cycle, adding masteron at low dose is lovely addition- and it does reduce water retention.

BTW congratulations on wise decision, prohormones are more-less bunk- and testosterone is actually much more safer and with less sides than phs.

[longBallLima]

Test at 500/week is enough for a first time pinner imo. Mon and Thurs shots. I like mast p. Maybe mast p eod starting after week 4. Agree with Jel, most phs give you borrowed muscle. What's your age?

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[longBallLima]

Oh and you won't bloat with the ai. And definitely not with the Mast

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