New to PH Advice appreciated!

[Circle]

It's not a malnutrition thing for me it's due to past sickness and lowered T level which is why i am trying this route. My T level is stable just lower then it should be due to Chemo therapy, thus the PH cycle experiment. I got my doctor on board, but he is by far no pro hormone expert and i don't want to rely on him for this.

[necropuppy]

Surprised you doc is OK with that.... Cause methylated compounds an chemo? Can't be great if you're actually on chemo presently.... Bro if your gonna do PH to regain mass just get on Juice?

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[KGPL]

Just talk to the doc, he can get you on the good stuff.

[tallstraw]

Dude, halo was the tits. Go 100 me the whole way through. By day 3 I was getting the pumps. But day 7 they were skin tearing. At week 3 the strength started kicking in..fast.

[Circle]

No i'm past chemo all good now just seemingly impossible to go higher, muscle wise then 175 for some reason i did 5.000 cal even 10.000 cal a 500 g protein 800g carbs a day for weeks with only slight increase so trying this now and see what happens. If i were still on chemo i wouldn't be able to lift trust me. Everyone who had cancer knows what I'm talking about. I really want to see what i can do with PH if it's not working, I will go and get on juice, but for now I feel like trying this route.

[tallstraw]

I'm calling bullshit. You ate 5k cals, and 10k cals and couldn't get weight? Gtfo out of here. Don't be confused, PH'S are gear. They're designer steroids most times and not actually a prohormone. They're normally shorter acting much stronger, and much more side effect riden. Not to mention short lived in gains most times...but if you can't gain without you aren't gonna gain and hold without em once they're done. I want to see a detailed log of this 5k calories a day for a month or 2, with oictures, and see that you don't gain weight. And if for some god awful reason you dont, 10k calories and log it. If that doesn't work, you have some digestion tract issues which are much more serious and need to be addressed.

[Circle]

I have a slight case of thyroid hyperfunction ever since my operation which only really affects my weight. I don't have HBP or anything besides a crazy metabolism. This is not coming from anywhere, I don't feel like inserting past logs where i got back from 100 to 175 and running 5-10k kcal a day helped me get back to 175 past this mostly fat gains. Been trying for a year now to get past 175 with various macros, diets, different training plans, its just leading to body fat increase.

[WesleyInman]

Circle,

I think what TS is saying, is generally true (but ur reply makes sense)..but plz dont see his reply or anyones as coming off calling u out

Swole source is a family so we are all very respectful of each other here...sometimes ppl might question things they have never dealt with, so don't take that offensively

Great to have you here..

And yes, I know that what you are saying is possible, plus in my experince, height is a HUGE indicator of dietary needs and difficulty gaining weights. I have a very good friend that is 6'7 and one who is 7'1..i have done their supp designs and nutrition for years...they both have run AAS and "might" gain 10lbs off huge dosages..10lbs of weight..not muscle. LOL. Its tough.

I will warn you very friendly..I have med experience (not forums) and I will tell u that many times androgens and testosterone can grow cancer cells, depending on the type. Please be VERY careful going this route. I would talk to your doctor about HRT and it's effects on your specific type of cancer or remission.

I have ZERO experience with cancer in terms of treatment and remission so I cannot help you. Your current doctor might know..but even then id get 2nd or 3rd opinion since alot of it is experimental to some degree..

One of my good buddies, and bodybuilders I work with in his 40's got throat cancer, didn't get off.and he literally tripled the speed of growth. Thankfully he had surgery to remove it and radiation and it subsided. I told him straight out..and he knew it could grow it and he refused to stop. Thats simply plain dumb. I told him to his face this and I also bitched him out for it..It's one thing to risk minimal issues, but when it "can" be life or death..its no joke. He has 2 awesome kids. Selfish. Def care about my friend and I told him if he got close to death,I'd revive him and beat the shit out of him..Don't wanna see anything bad happen to him.

He finally listened. He's on super low HRT and in remission. He used to be 6'0- 290lbs at under 10% bf...GIGANTIC, Ive seen him rep 500 for doubles on incline as a bodybuilder..pure muscle. Now he's about 220 nice and lean maybe hitting 315 for a few reps on incline. He struggles with this psychologically..but his kids dont give a shit if he benches 30 lbs or 1000.

Anyways, just FYI please check into this if you can. You can always discuss oral steroid treatment such as VAR or others with your doctor for comparison sakes, or you can mention PH's.but your doctor will have ZERO clue about PH's.. They may have info about VAR and its effects on cancers in remission.