I actually agree with him somewhat, using the stronger faster acting orals like dbol, drol, se ect, I can see it working, I use dbol as a prewo/pulse, 20mg only prewo for 8-10wks, so that's like 4 tabs a week and is constantly in and out of me due to half life, yet I get results with no sides, flip flopping strong orals I could see working, but not winny