Need suggestions on dermatren stack

[JD70]

Hi guys,
I'm on my 3rd week of pct and planning my next cycle, after a 6 week break. I'm looking forward to transdermal trenavar (Olympus Dermatren), and want to know what's the best test base to run with it, and if you think Oxydrone (25mg halodrol and 7mg methylsten per pill) would be good to stack with it. I have both dermatren and oxydrone already, enough for 2 months.

I'm planning on 90mg trenavar per day,
And if oxydrone probably 2 ed (50mg hal, 14 msten).

Test base (4ad, stano, dermacrine, trest- suggestions)?

I have on cycle (cycle assist, damage control) and pct (tamoxifen, daa, pct w/AI), and will get a prolactin control for trenavar (inhibit-p or similar, maybe OL super pct).

I'm:
44 yo, 5'7", 170#, less than 20% bf (estimate), worked out most of my life.

1st cycle 6 weeks super dmz 3.0
Main question is:
1. Best 'Test base'?
2. Prolactin control necessary on cycle or post cycle, or both?
3. Stack dermatren with oxydrone (Or maybe just dermatren + test base)?

I'm looking for lean mass and strength, and help with lethargy and libido issues from trenavar (and msten if I stack w/oxydrone).

Thanks ahead of time, thought I'd see if anyone has any knowledge and experience with these here.

[KGPL]

I have no experience with this, but hopefully this helps a bit.

Stack the tren with trest. Run an AI+caber/prami throughout cycle and keep on it.

That would give more than enough gains, but perhaps if you want to keep them lean, add in epistane?

[BoneDaddy]

I agree with epistane or Trest. The Msten wouldn't be a bad addition either so long as you have a great PCT lined up. And I would absolutely have some prolactin control in place.

[JD70]

Thanks, that's helpful. I'm definitely doing dermatren, and if I add halo/msten, then do you think it would be better to go with a weaker than trest PH as a test base/sides (such as 4ad, epiandro, stano, or dermacrine)?

[ECTD]

the stack looks good! no problems running them together.
Best Test Type base is definitely Trestolone!
definitely would recommend prolactin control

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Thanks, that's helpful. I'm definitely doing dermatren, and if I add halo/msten, then do you think it would be better to go with a weaker than trest PH as a test base/sides (such as 4ad, epiandro, stano, or dermacrine)?

either way i'd say Trestolone should be ran. @50mg daily as a base dose.

[KGPL]

Any reason why the derma tren over oral?

[JD70]

Thanks a lot for your help, looks like trest is the preferred base, whether I just run it with 90mg dermatren or if I decide to do dermatren/ halo/msten.

I'm thinking about just dermatren/ trest now, and halo/msten/trest next time, since its just my 2nd cycle.

The reason I chose dermatren is that it's supposed to absorb more mg into the body and over a longer lasting time period.

What about trest- there is both oral and transdermal trest, (dermatrest by OL)? If it really bypasses the liver (even if just a little), and absorbs more into the bloodstream, shouldn't I also get dermatrest? Pills are easier, but I'm willing to rub it on if it's better in any way.

[JD70]

the stack looks good! no problems running them together.
Best Test Type base is definitely Trestolone!
definitely would recommend prolactin control

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either way i'd say Trestolone should be ran. @50mg daily as a base dose.

Thanks for the tip of 50mg trest. I was looking up OL dermatrest and saw that's 1 serving, so I guess it won't totally overtake the trenavar at that dose. A bottle should last 60 days, the whole cycle. Cool, since its not cheap!

Do you think 90mg dermatren is good with this?

[BoneDaddy]

I'd do 90 Dermatren and 50 Dermatrest.

[somm]

It might be hard to find good application sites running two transdermals. Not sure if they would absorb well if rubbed on the same location. (back and shoulders/traps)