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    Planning Second Cycle

    I'm looking to run my second cycle in january for six weeks. First consisted of superdmz and epiandro. Great results.

    With the goal of a cut/recomp along with some strength gains, I was considering the following. Haven't decided on dosing, just know that I love epiandro and will take a very high dosage of that.

    Trestolone. Not sure if acetate or trans-dermal yet.
    Epistane- Worried about libido with this. Trest and epiandro should make up for it, right?
    Epiandro- Dosing probably around to 500-700 mark.


    Thoughts on this cycle? Anything else I should consider instead?

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    Looks like a very solid cycle. Should be zero libido issues on that stack.
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    Looks solid!

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    imo with 50mg oral trestolone nothing can make you have libido issues haha.
    it's quite the feel good and libido boosting compound!
    stack looks good!
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    Transdermal vs pinning for trest. Thoughts?

    Thinking 600mg epiandro, 75mg epistane, and not sure on the trest yet.

    Will run HCG, ralox, prami, and exem on cycle. PCT will consist of ralox, exem, and clomid.

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    Pinning would be the way I would go. But I despise TD haha.
    Everything else sounds good man!
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    Bump your epiandro dose, and skip epistane.

    Epiandro 1000 mg and trest 50! I haven't used trest but I know from what other guys tell me and how tren treated me... Methylated Orals somehow always seem appealing but honestly you will get so much more out of the trest and epiandro will compliment it's wetness perfectly.


    Are you worried about gyno? I used to be all over taking all those meds man but... Skip the ralox, skip the prami. If you really get prolactin sides use as low a dose of caber as possible. I think I fucked up and used too much dopamine agonist which led to some ED issues for months post cycle.

    Just keep estrogen in line and androgens high and gyno will be under control

    I must say, I used so much ralox and it didn't do shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by weekend View Post
    Are you worried about gyno? I used to be all over taking all those meds man but... Skip the ralox, skip the prami. If you really get prolactin sides use as low a dose of caber as possible. I think I fucked up and used too much dopamine agonist which led to some ED issues for months post cycle.

    Just keep estrogen in line and androgens high and gyno will be under control

    I must say, I used so much ralox and it didn't do shit
    The ralox is the only thing that keeps my gyno from acting up when on trestolone lol, but I am taking it at 60-100mg ED.

    I think the prami can cause problems if you use it too long. It increases dopamine which probably leads to receptors being downregulated. Which means when you come off, you're going to get less effect from the dopamine you naturally produce. But, then again, that's sort of just like steroids. Low androgen environment after cycle, then you PCT to bring it back.

    Prami definitely helped me with my joints though. Thank god I happen to have start using it when I did, my right elbow was destroyed for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weekend View Post
    Bump your epiandro dose, and skip epistane.

    Epiandro 1000 mg and trest 50! I haven't used trest but I know from what other guys tell me and how tren treated me... Methylated Orals somehow always seem appealing but honestly you will get so much more out of the trest and epiandro will compliment it's wetness perfectly.


    Are you worried about gyno? I used to be all over taking all those meds man but... Skip the ralox, skip the prami. If you really get prolactin sides use as low a dose of caber as possible. I think I fucked up and used too much dopamine agonist which led to some ED issues for months post cycle.

    Just keep estrogen in line and androgens high and gyno will be under control

    I must say, I used so much ralox and it didn't do shit
    1000mg epiandro and 50 trest sounds even better. I'm worried about epistane and my joints. Non methylated would actually be preferred, methyls can't be good long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGPL View Post
    1000mg epiandro and 50 trest sounds even better. I'm worried about epistane and my joints. Non methylated would actually be preferred, methyls can't be good long term.
    i wouldn't worry about joint problems with epi while on trest.
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