When to PCT after frontloading test e

[tallstraw]

Why not just cut or bulk? Why give 2 goals for the same cycle? Cut, or bulk breh? Or I guess you could recomp, then cut? Unless that was the plan. But these bulk then cuts I see never go too well. I mean they go well, but the person at the end is always like "Man, I wish I'd have cut(or bulked) instead.

[JD70]

Well, you're right it was more recomp. I'd like to lose a little fat at the end. Plus it's a pretty long cycle with a month break between orals. But I totally get what you're saying, and you're probably right.
Going to be very tough to wait to start back up till November. Gotta do it though, and be clean for my Dr. Could use a break anyway, just did a great cycle of dermatren and epiandro, before I met my new aas friend. That was a good recomp cycle, by the way. 45 days probably ave 120mg Dermatren and 3-400mg epiandro hard. Strength and muscle hardness went way up.

[JD70]

Why not just cut or bulk? Why give 2 goals for the same cycle? Cut, or bulk breh? Or I guess you could recomp, then cut? Unless that was the plan. But these bulk then cuts I see never go too well. I mean they go well, but the person at the end is always like "Man, I wish I'd have cut(or bulked) instead.

I was considering what you said and might just do a bulk cycle, save the var for a summer cutter. Been wanting to try anadrol anyway. Start mid Nov. See how big I can get in the winter!
1-5 dbol 30-40 ed
1-12 test e 500/week split mon, thurs
10-14 anadrol (dose?) Need to research, want to do enough but not overdo. I understand it's not nearly as toxic as dbol. If anyone has experience taking anadrol I'd appreciate suggested dosage for this cycle.

[JD70]

Looks like anadrol is good at 50-100mg ED.

I'm starting PCT tomorrow, it will have been 13 days since last pin of test e (500mg right shoulder- I will not do that again!). Its high dosed 400/ml.

I continued dermatren till today, 30mg PWO then 60 after shower later. Ran dtren 7 weeks and 3 days with epiandro hard and liked it. Did 120-180mg DT ED.
I've been using exem, 6.25mg ED, along with a lot of other stuff (prami, hawthorne berry extract, liv52ds), and now that I'm going into pct my question is would arimistane work now? I have a lot of it and a little formestane, and would like to use it if it will do the job.

PCT looks like:
Nolva 30/20/20/10
Epic (2)
Battlefuel (DAA supp)
GW 20mg divided a.m./ p.m.
Cycle support, liv52ds
Exem 6.25ED* **am wondering if arimistane would be good during PCT instead of exem. Also will take a half dose of AI for week or 2 after last dose of nolva.* ** (for example exem 6.25 EOD, or 25mg arim ED).

[tallstraw]

What?! Who told you that, it's much more toxic than dbol the way I've always understood it.

[JD70]

What?! Who told you that, it's much more toxic than dbol the way I've always understood it.

Are you talking about anadrol? Yes, I've read it is more toxic than dbol since my buddy told me otherwise, or I might have misunderstood??? Good reason to always do own research to confirm. Thanks man.
Do you have any experience with arimistane as being good or bad during PCT?

[tallstraw]

No, you said in your previous post dbol is more toxic than drol. When I've always read and been told drol is more toxic, much more than dbol. Arimistane is an AI, right? I'd just use exemestane at a low dose for pct.

[JD70]

No, you said in your previous post dbol is more toxic than drol. When I've always read and been told drol is more toxic, much more than dbol. Arimistane is an AI, right? I'd just use exemestane at a low dose for pct.

Yes, I was trying to agree, anadrol is more toxic than dbol (and dbol is toxic). Evolutionary has some good info and says that too. I still want to do a bulk with good liver protection with it. Its supposed to have great gains. Cool about exem, that seems to be the way to go, thanks for confirming. Arim is a suicidal AI (econtrol) but a weak in comparison to exem, and weaker than formestane.

[tallstraw]

Well, for me formestane still converts to a hormone. So wouldn't risk formestane. On cycle, sure, off cycle, not a chance. If Arim is suicidal, I'd just use exem.


I was just trying to correct ya cuz in a previous post you wrote bol was more toxic than drol. Which b it's not from everything I know. But since you know that all I was doing was probably correct a sentence syntax or spell check error. I've never run drol. It makes some people feel like shit utter shit, but the gains are awesome. Meanwhile dbol is great, and makes you feel great.

[JD70]

Well, for me formestane still converts to a hormone. So wouldn't risk formestane. On cycle, sure, off cycle, not a chance. If Arim is suicidal, I'd just use exem.


I was just trying to correct ya cuz in a previous post you wrote bol was more toxic than drol. Which b it's not from everything I know. But since you know that all I was doing was probably correct a sentence syntax or spell check error. I've never run drol. It makes some people feel like shit utter shit, but the gains are awesome. Meanwhile dbol is great, and makes you feel great.

Thanks man sounds good. Exem is suicidal too, which isn't bad it doesn't cause rebound. Will stick with it.