What are your short and long term goals?

[Eden]

^^^it was a generalization, i see it all over, i prob was like that too when i started, thinking id grow 15bs every year
id think anyone 5'8-5'9 at 225-230 at low bf is on gear 24/7, be it a cruise/cycle whatever

I know I just wanted to put my 2c in there. I wasn't feeling personally attacked or anything man, it's all friendly. I just think that a lot of dudes just like you do, they don't realize the work that is involved with what they are wanting to do.

[BBG]

^^^it was a generalization, i see it all over, i prob was like that too when i started, thinking id grow 15bs every year
id think anyone 5'8-5'9 at 225-230 at low bf is on gear 24/7, be it a cruise/cycle whatever

Definitely agree. Anyone at that height, weight and low bf is a monster.