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    Quote Originally Posted by weekend View Post
    Jel, what are your thoughts on adding straight up dermacrine to TRT? How many mg of topical dhea/preg would you use?
    Defintely good idea, as matter of fact even adding it a week or two before would be wise.
    I think 50 mg (oral) of both are ok to start with and then if needed increase pregnenolone, with transdermal I think around 15-20 mg is ok to start with.
    Excessive DHEA converts to E2 a lot, so thats why I'm cautious with increasing DHEA more than 50 mg, pregnenolone also converts to DHEA as well, so increasing preg should cover it all- when progesterone reaches a top than you know thats enough. Only possible confusion can happen- when HCG dosage is to high it also raises progesterone a lot, which can make dosing of preg/hcg bit difficult.


    For raising DHT there is DHT cream/gel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jelisej View Post
    For raising DHT there is DHT cream/gel.
    Is this something that can be perscribed? Can't seem to find any OTC
    TRT: test cyp exem HCG 192lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by lt1head View Post
    Is this something that can be perscribed? Can't seem to find any OTC
    It depends from endo I think, in Europe they prescribe it sometimes- dont know how it is in USA or Canada, but it can be imported without problems I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lt1head View Post
    Is this something that can be perscribed? Can't seem to find any OTC
    Andractim - RX only

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freepressright View Post
    Andractim - RX only
    Just a heads up on this. If you place an order you might want to let your bank know ahead of time. I placed an order and my bank froze my card because of suspicion of fraudulent activity. I called and told them it was ok and they unfroze my card. Also I think this other site may be a bit cheaper but prob not much Genuine Cialis, Levitra, Caverject, Uprima, Viagra, Gynecomastia Treatment and Testerone Gel from the All Saints Clinic, Cyprus but they at least have an email address. The other one didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jelisej View Post
    Defintely good idea, as matter of fact even adding it a week or two before would be wise.
    I think 50 mg (oral) of both are ok to start with and then if needed increase pregnenolone, with transdermal I think around 15-20 mg is ok to start with.
    Excessive DHEA converts to E2 a lot, so thats why I'm cautious with increasing DHEA more than 50 mg, pregnenolone also converts to DHEA as well, so increasing preg should cover it all- when progesterone reaches a top than you know thats enough. Only possible confusion can happen- when HCG dosage is to high it also raises progesterone a lot, which can make dosing of preg/hcg bit difficult.


    For raising DHT there is DHT cream/gel.

    So ... if I am understanding this - the thought would be to go with Test cyp and then some number of pumps of dermacrine - which should add some testosterone due to conversion of DHEA, as well as provide pregnelone. Did someone not also suggest at one point that dermacrine applied to the scrotum will increase DHT - DHEA converts to testosterone and enzymes in scrotum convert testosterone to DHT ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haritec View Post
    So ... if I am understanding this - the thought would be to go with Test cyp and then some number of pumps of dermacrine - which should add some testosterone due to conversion of DHEA, as well as provide pregnelone. Did someone not also suggest at one point that dermacrine applied to the scrotum will increase DHT - DHEA converts to testosterone and enzymes in scrotum convert testosterone to DHT ?
    I think testosterone and DHT conversion from DHEA is pretty much insignificant, if anything DHEA converts a lot more to E2 (at least in men), keeping DHEA in decent levels has some benefits like for immune system and apparently antiageing benefits, both everything over the top will likely end up into E2. So I suggest only little bit of DHEA, and more of pregnenolone as pregnenolone has a lot of benefits on its own and it cascades into DHEA (and other hormones in line).

    Also I would suggest you to do one thing at the time- start with injectable testosterone (cyp or enthanate) get testosterone levels steady and then add bit of transdermal testosterone or even DHT, otherwise it can be confusing and also testosterone can be bit supressive to cortisol and DHT can be a supressive towards cortisol a lot- so after testosterone levels and cortisol levels are OK then add DHT.

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