Torem AND Clomid together - Who has tried this?

[Jelisej]

Tamoxifene and toremifene are actually quite similar, and they produce similar results AFAIK. So in relaity using either in combination with clomiphene should yield simiar result.

Clomiphene is much more superior in effect of receptors sensitation to E2 or in other words clomid has much more significant inhibition of the sensitizing effect of E2 on the GnRH-stimulated release of LH.

I would not go without clomiphene, if it produces side effect lesser dosage is an option.

One downside of cliomiphene and other SERMS as well is that libido is not quite good, or it can be really bad for some folks but that does not mean that person is not recovering-
Libido will be affected for as long as clomiphene is in sysrem and clomiphene has a long half life- which is another reason why high dose of clomid should not be used (higher doses take longer to clear).

Now, as for testboosters for PCT, that is kamikaze style PCT IMHO- altough libido will come a lot, lot faster than when using PCT- dfference is in receptors. Basically- SERM PCT is simple more thourough.
As a matter of fact its very likely that preson witohut PCT will regain its libido before person who has been few months on SERMS, but person who done SERMS will be much beter off.