Is saw palmetto shampoo risky?

[Freepressright]

I've thoroughly combed the net and found an anecdotal consensus:

Those sensitive to 5ar inhibition can be crushed by saw palmetto almost as much as those afflicted by finasteride. But something crossed my mind. What about anti-hair-loss shampoos that have saw palmetto in them. Is topically applying it to the scalp anything like ingesting it? Would it have consequences to the 5ar enzyme in the body?

[entropy]

It depends how much saw palmetto is in there really. I would say it would either be totally useless as a topical or have the potential to cause problems. If the saw palmetto is binding to the reductase enzymes locally, its not efficient enough to slow down "balding" cause there's reductase enzymes converting hormones all of the time. If the saw palmetto is getting into the bloodstream, you might have a problem.

If its any help to you, the guys who tend to experience problems with saw palmetto are usually taking pretty big doses of standardised extracts.. So it probably takes a lot of the stuff to fuck shit up internally.

That being said, I wouldn't risk it. If my hair starts falling out again (ever since my propecia encounter, it's been steadily growing back. Score) I might consider nizoral. Might.

[Freepressright]

It depends how much saw palmetto is in there really. I would say it would either be totally useless as a topical or have the potential to cause problems. If the saw palmetto is binding to the reductase enzymes locally, its not efficient enough to slow down "balding" cause there's reductase enzymes converting hormones all of the time. If the saw palmetto is getting into the bloodstream, you might have a problem.

If its any help to you, the guys who tend to experience problems with saw palmetto are usually taking pretty big doses of standardised extracts.. So it probably takes a lot of the stuff to fuck shit up internally.

That being said, I wouldn't risk it. If my hair starts falling out again (ever since my propecia encounter, it's been steadily growing back. Score) I might consider nizoral. Might.

I used this to regrow my hair, in conjunction with tocotrienols. I don't recall it having any impact on my libido, but in fairness, I was cycling when I was on it:

Pura Dor Gold Label Organic Argan Oil Based Anti-Hair Loss Shampoo

I'd like to get more, but after my last experience with fenugreek, I'm afraid.

[entropy]

If you're worried i'd probably give nizoral a try. Rather than being a reductase inhibitor the ketocanozole binds to the dht receptors in the scalp directly. I've never heard of anyone having any kind of side effects short of dry hair.

[hossam]

my guessing it will prevent the DHT hormone only from reaching the scalp and that's about it
like entropy said you will need big doses to effect your libido and the dose in the shampoo is nothing

[Freepressright]

my guessing it will prevent the DHT hormone only from reaching the scalp and that's about it
like entropy said you will need big doses to effect your libido and the dose in the shampoo is nothing

That was also my hypothesis, but I always like to get other opinions when something as scary as a 5ar inhibitor is in play.

Like I said, I used the shampoo before, but that was during a period of time when I was conducting a research experiment that involved 300mg 2x weekly of Trest Deca. My research organism had the sex drive of Porntown's finest.

[Cdsnuts]

I've thoroughly combed the net and found an anecdotal consensus:

Those sensitive to 5ar inhibition can be crushed by saw palmetto almost as much as those afflicted by finasteride. But something crossed my mind. What about anti-hair-loss shampoos that have saw palmetto in them. Is topically applying it to the scalp anything like ingesting it? Would it have consequences to the 5ar enzyme in the body?

The consensus is correct. There are plenty of guys on PH who were decimated by the "all natural" saw palmetto just as bad as if they had taken fin.

[Freepressright]

The consensus is correct. There are plenty of guys on PH who were decimated by the "all natural" saw palmetto just as bad as if they had taken fin.

I spent about an hour reading up on the people injured by therapeutic doses of saw palmetto. Their symptoms were identical to those with Post Finasteride Syndrome.

How long did your recovery take?

[Cdsnuts]

I spent about an hour reading up on the people injured by therapeutic doses of saw palmetto. Their symptoms were identical to those with Post Finasteride Syndrome.

How long did your recovery take?

5 years.

Couldn't fuck, couldn't build muscle, had the emotions and demeanor of a teenage girl, couldn't sleep, anxiety 24/7, no pleasure in life at all, no motivation, no zest. It was more then I would wish on anyone.

Some of the guys on PH we lost to suicide. I'm too stubborn for that.

[entropy]

I don't know how the fuck you did it man. I'm just glad you did cause the information is invaluable.