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    Thanks for the kind words Entropy. I'll do my best to contribute. I'm 90% there but there are a few sticking points I'm still working out. A lot of it is mental as now I'm approaching women again etc and trying to be genuine and not feeling like I'm trying to hide anything. This has been somewhat more of a transition than I realized at first.

    I do agree that porn can affect stimulation. It has to do with dopamine receptors I believe. At the same time it's somewhat refreshing for someone who has been in my state to experience (through mirror neurons) fully functioning sex with no dysfunction. Kind of like film study for an athlete lol I hope that isn't too gross or taken the wrong way!!! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    It is going to get worse. Much worse. it starts with a trickle, then turns into a flood. I can tell you where the major leak has sprung from:

    5 alpha victim posted this in my PH recovery thread:

    **** "That list that I came up with I gathered from this I'm cured thread. I just went through every post.
    That trickle has begun while back ago, and I suggest sub-section or at least a one huge thread where people affectedinterested can make question otherwise we'll have bazzilion threads. And most of them would be completely unneccessary.

    Regarding spontaneous erections- past mid-20's most of people dont have them, or it very rare. As we are getting older its harder and harder to get/maintain erection no matter what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jelisej View Post
    As we are getting older its harder and harder to get/maintain erection no matter what.
    This isn't normal though Jel. Or, let me rephrase...it shouldn't be normal. In our toxic, overly estrogenic environment, it's normal. I'm 37 and have absolutely no problems getting or maintaining an erection at anytime. If your system is firing on all cylinders and you clear the xeno-estrogens from your body, things will work the way nature intended them to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    This isn't normal though Jel. Or, let me rephrase...it shouldn't be normal. In our toxic, overly estrogenic environment, it's normal. I'm 37 and have absolutely no problems getting or maintaining an erection at anytime. If your system is firing on all cylinders and you clear the xeno-estrogens from your body, things will work the way nature intended them to.
    I've read on the (xeno-estrogen). Heated plastics and all that... What's the most effective way that you have found to expel them? Besides eating (the raw broccoli)and avoiding plastic water bottles and heating food and plastics...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bam24 View Post
    I've read on the (xeno-estrogen). Heated plastics and all that... What's the most effective way that you have found to expel them? Besides eating (the raw broccoli)and avoiding plastic water bottles and heating food and plastics...


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    I'll shoot off as many as I can think right now....

    Avoid all:

    Personal care products (hairspray, shampoo, deodorants air fresheners) Anything that has "fragrance" in the ingredient list is a xeno estrogen and is bad news for your testicles. Think about deodorant for a minute....you rub those chemicals straight into your lymphatic system through your underarms...no good.

    Cleaning products: Sprays, aerosols, cleaners. They are all loaded with "fragrance" to make them smell like a nice summer day. This fragrance is an estrogen mimic. Anytime you get a nice big whiff of a chemical air freshener or cleaner, your breathing that stuff straight into your blood stream.

    Plastic water bottles, otherwise known as estrogen bombs are loaded with bisphenol A. This is the chemical that gives plastic it's....plasticity. It is also one of the most pervasive xeno estrogens out there. The water in the those bottles is LOADED with it. I never drink from plastic bottles.

    Conventionally produced produce is loaded with pesticides, which just happen to be estrogenic. There are even reports from biologists where run off from factory farms which leech into nearby water ways, turn all of the frogs in the vicinity FEMALE, even though they were born male. Same thing for alligators and fish. They are just swimming in the estrogen and can't escape. There is also the phenomenon where by male alligators where growing smaller and producing penis's that didn't work anymore because of estrogen overload.

    Conventionally produced meats are another offender. They feed cows not only antibiotics, but estrogen, so they grow bigger, faster, make more milk and have more babies. When then eat this estrogen in their meat.

    The onslaught is an epidemic which is why sperm rates have fallen in developed nations by 50% or more. Men are not men like they were during the WWII time period. Those dudes back then would kick our asses today. They had almost twice the natural test we do. They ate real food that wasn't GMO, poisoned, etc.

    What amazes me is that all of this stuff is chemically similar to estrogen?! I find that strange. But it is what it is.

    So, aside from limiting your exposure, you can actively take things to expel this estrogen from your system. A few of those are:

    DIM
    Chysin
    Resveratrol
    Calcium D glucarate.

    And my favorite....PINE POLLEN.

    As far as products that don't contain straight up chemicals, you can find healthy alternatives to most of that stuff.
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    I find my inner peace in the fact that I can still hump like I did in my 20's.
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    Thanks cds that was good info.. Ordered 2SA. AND AM going to pick up some pine pollen really soon... That's fact abt ww2. And how superior the levels were explains a lot.. I'll actively try to avoid some of the xenoestrogens... Hv to grab some bpa free reusable water containers.. And hit it that way I usually drink from water bottles only :fail 😔


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    My libido has been lower than usual. I've been on the GOMAD diet, and this has made me switch from organic to regular because of price. been wondering if there was a connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes View Post
    My libido has been lower than usual. I've been on the GOMAD diet, and this has made me switch from organic to regular because of price. been wondering if there was a connection.
    Unfortunately, this is the main reason why people don't/can't do most of this. In this day and age it's easier AND cheaper to be un-healthy, over-burdened and hormonally supressed. It's become the norm.
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    Dang, that is a thread that we should create. Things involving Xeno estrogens..wtf do I do about deodorant!? That little bit of estrogen is worth not smelling like shit. Id like to create a list where we update the first post often about the everyday things we eat,drink, and use, that contain concentrations of Xeno-Estrogens. As well as what is a replacement or alternative right next to it. I think we'd be doing all of us a favor by making that list.

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