Eric Potratz needs our help

[Cdsnuts]

So I had a back and forth with Eric today. He was finally indicted. He wrote:

"I actually just got my indictment letter 2 days ago. Very strange timing indeed! This is the first charge they've made since the raid in 2012. I go to San Jose on the 20th of this month to plead not guilty. I'm not yet sure of the court date.

Your email will help me though. They are charging me with distribution of unapproved drugs, misbranded drugs, etc... with the "intent to defraud and mislead". (see attached) So any letters or kind words from customers like this will surely help me. The strangest thing is that they are targeting "Turinabol-LV" because "Turinabol" was a controlled substance at the time, so they are basically saying I was selling a controlled anabolic steroid, even though the product was a precursor to Turinabol. (halodrol clone)"

Guys...if you can take the time to put into words how Eric helped many of you in the past and even just to how PP as a whole made your lives better, it would be a great help to him. Simply send them to him at eric@botanicalcraft.com . It's a small gesture, but will go very far.

I have a copy of the indictment but I cannot ever upload pictures to this site for the life of me.

He also said he would come here and answer any questions you may have.

[BBG]

Thanks for this. So much for all the idiots who thought he was faking this whole situation.

[tallstraw]

Wow yeah, how would I format this..I mean saying he helped me is great all but how would I word it exactly in the best way. I mean he gave me access to legal dietary supplements that were never sold or anything under the guise of anything else. If anything he tried to change the market, he brought a product that worked, and wasn't poison in a bottle as well. This sounds like they literally couldn't get him on anything so this is the last ditch effort..going after semantics of a product name.

[Cdsnuts]

Wow yeah, how would I format this..I mean saying he helped me is great all but how would I word it exactly in the best way. I mean he gave me access to legal dietary supplements that were never sold or anything under the guise of anything else. If anything he tried to change the market, he brought a product that worked, and wasn't poison in a bottle as well. This sounds like they literally couldn't get him on anything so this is the last ditch effort..going after semantics of a product name.

Just write it from the heart. It doesnt have to be perfect.

[BBG]

When I can I'm just going to write that his products helped a lot of people and that they were far safer to use than a lot of supplements out there. He out a lot of time and energy into formulating products designed to work with the body in a healthy way instead of producing results that put the body into a compromised state of health.

[hossam]

I hope Eric comes out safe from all of this BS

[Cdsnuts]

Honestly, I expected more of a response from this post.

[WesleyInman]

Will do.

This is insane. 3 years later on a pro-hormone. They took all the products and all his money. Why the animosity for a supplement producer.

Witch Hunt...3 years later on a legal product, regardless of the comparison to the name. Meanwhile real World problems go unaccounted for. FML.

[derekh83]

This sucks! I will definitely send him a note.

Did anyone else get this email offer? This looks like a great deal.

Copied from email:

As you may know I launched Palm Fruit about 14 months ago under the new company Botanical Craft.

People have asked, "Why is Palm Fruit more expensive than the old Toco-8 from Primordial?" There are a couple reasons for this:
1. New FDA regulations require the active ingredients to exceed label claims throughout the product's 2-year shelf-life. This means Palm Fruit is almost 20% more potent than Toco-8 to buffer against natural variation and loss of potency over time.
2. Palm Fruit contains a new patented extract of tocotrienols + carotenoids, delivering over 35 naturally occurring vitamers and phytonutrients. This means Palm Fruit has 43x more carotenoids than Toco-8 and other tocotrienol products on the market.
Palm Fruit is far superior to Toco-8 and provides greater benefits for hair growth, skin protection from sunlight, and cardiovascular health.

Recently, we obtained lower costs on Palm Fruit by ramping up production for 2015. To celebrate, I’ve put together an exclusive offer for previous Primordial customers so you can save 50% and get Palm Fruit for only $24.99 on the monthly autoship plan:
Palm Fruit Jar
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Copied from email:

As you may know I launched Palm Fruit about 14 months ago under the new company Botanical Craft.

People have asked, "Why is Palm Fruit more expensive than the old Toco-8 from Primordial?" There are a couple reasons for this:
1. New FDA regulations require the active ingredients to exceed label claims throughout the product's 2-year shelf-life. This means Palm Fruit is almost 20% more potent than Toco-8 to buffer against natural variation and loss of potency over time.
2. Palm Fruit contains a new patented extract of tocotrienols + carotenoids, delivering over 35 naturally occurring vitamers and phytonutrients. This means Palm Fruit has 43x more carotenoids than Toco-8 and other tocotrienol products on the market.
Palm Fruit is far superior to Toco-8 and provides greater benefits for hair growth, skin protection from sunlight, and cardiovascular health.

Recently, we obtained lower costs on Palm Fruit by ramping up production for 2015. To celebrate, I’ve put together an exclusive offer for previous Primordial customers so you can save 50% and get Palm Fruit for only $24.99 on the monthly autoship plan:
Palm Fruit Jar

Try not to be duped so quickly I previously pointed this out before and I'll point it out again.

1. The FDA doesn't require you to exceed label claims....simply meet label claims...good manufacturers will exceed 1-5% to ensure dosage is correct from loss/spillage etc. (If safe to do so)
1.1 Palm fruit contains the same 20% extract that toco8 uses it just isn't watered down with tapicoa flour...remember toco8 it was 60 serves originally and was nice and bright orange then it was 30 serves and lighter in color with the flour added.....so Yeah if you compare the water down version of toco8 (which was the final version Pp used) to palm fruit yeah palm fruit looks way better in that lighting.

See here:





2. Palm Fruit does not have 43x more carotenoids than Toco-8...Eric has simply started declaring the naturally found Vitamins and carotenoids on the label.....when we get new labels printed we too will be making the same claim to keep up with the spin.....however we wont be selling it as spin...we will make a statement that we are now showing all naturally occurring nutrients.


Lastly when botanical crafty ran out of stock a few months back...this was the exact time we were having supply issues......wonder why?
I'll tell you the CEO of Carotech lives partly in Maylasia and Australia so we chat....we know the purchase qty and purities that are being used they are exactly the same as ours. And as to the reason we almost ran out of stock and botanical actually did run out of stock was because of a cyclone that took out many coconut trees which were being used for bio diesel so instead the industries switched to using toco bio diesel.


I'll actually show you how to work this out from the nutritional panels that it is the same extract/supplier:

Break down	TocoCaps 130mg	Palm Fruit BC 154mg	% versus extract TocoCaps	% versus extract Palm Fruit BC
d-alpha-tocotrienol	30mg	36mg	23.07%	23.37%
d-beta-tocotrienol	4mg	4mg	3.07%	2.59%
d-gamma-tocotrienol	52mg	61mg	40%	39.61%
d-delta-tocotrienol	14mg	16mg	10.67%	10.38%
d-alpha-tocopherols	30mg	36mg	23.07%	23.37%

As for the added carotenoids it actually states on the palm fruit label"Vitamin A 9700IU 194% (as carotenoids from palm fruit extract)"
^ This proves they are not added they are naturally occurring in the extract and a simple google search also turns up typical values of Vitamin A found in palm fruit extracts.

Here is carotech's spec sheet if you wish to compare yourself: tocomax-20-spec.pdf This actually shows you that 20% is the minimum extract percentage not the actual...it also shows you the typical percentage found. (additionally it also shows you typical percentages for each vitamin this is why the above label figures can vary depending on where you wish to display purity on your label eg d-Alpha-Tocotrienol range is 45 – 70 mg/g typical is 50 mg/g)




I think getting behind Eric with the FDA issues is a good thing...he is after all innocent I am for this not against it.
But buying into the marketing spin and hype is something you need to make an informed choice for yourself.....do your own research...please don't take my word for it....LOOK INTO IT i want you to find out if I'm telling the truth or lying.

Did toco8 not work at growing back your hair and having positive health effects?
Is Palm fruit now 43x better at doing the same thing?

Or are the results from the natural unadulterated extract all you need....case in point: http://www.swolesource.com/forum/wicked-supplements/1574-amazing-tococaps-review-2.html#post38297