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    There is no 19DHEA in any Forerunner product. Alpha Bulk is comparable to Andro Mass, not Andro Bulk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freepressright View Post
    There is no 19DHEA in any Forerunner product. Alpha Bulk is comparable to Andro Mass, not Andro Bulk.
    Ha, so is there a Alpha Mass that's similar to Andobulk? LOL Really dislike the blatent name plagarism, but hey, whatever. If they're a good sub for the Androseries, that's good enough.

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    Alpha Mass = 1-DHEA
    Alpha Bulk = 4-DHEA
    5-Alpha Test - R-DHEA

    As you know, Primordial dumped the 1-DHEA altogether because it causes lethargy that simply cannot be full eradicated by another oral DHEA of any variety. Dermacrine, however, is capable of mitigating it. Part of that, I suspect, is the DHEA conversion via skin enzymes being more effective/efficient and the neurostimulation of the pregenolone.
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    Some additional thoughts on this whole Forerunner thing while I'm thinking about it...

    Everyone's quick to point out the lower doses of the actives, but nearly all feedback on the Forerunner products is good. I have a theory about that, which runs parallel with a theory about testosterone.

    Moderate doses of testosterone seem to be more effective than mega doses. I'm thinking that the moderate dose method of a testosterone precursor like 4-DHEA may hold true to that principle as welll, provided the delivery system is good.

    Whilst you do not have the grapefruit to enhance absorption of the Forerunner products, the fatty acids in the carrier are very similar to the AndroSeries.

    And yes, you could conceivably stack the Alpha Bulk (4-DHEA) with Alpha Mass (1-DHEA). However, almost all reports I've read indicate that the 4-DHEA by itself is not enough to mitigate the lethargy and loss of libido associated with the 1-DHEA.

    Primordial also ran into this issue with the first version of AndroMass.

    My suggestion would be to run a high dose of Forerunner's 5-Alpha Test, a healthy dose of Alpha Bulk and a lower dose of Alpha Mass. The synergistic effects of the two DHEAs would provide good clean gains and the synergy between the 4-DHEA and the DHT from the epiandrosterone in the 5-Alpha Test would help to eradicate the lethargy.

    Dermacrine, obviously, would be a great choice, but it's no longer available.

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    i think more test is better, luckily it doesnt bloat me tho,gives a thermo effect actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freepressright View Post
    Moderate doses of testosterone seem to be more effective than mega doses.

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    I ran 5-Alpha at rec dose and AlphaBulk at 12 caps ed and loved the combo. I put on 6lbs of clean weight.

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    forerunner and androfactory are both good to go companies making similar products

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    What was the whole debacle over Androfactory about a year ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman View Post
    forerunner and androfactory are both good to go companies making similar products
    I won't give a dime to AndroFactory. Intellectual property theft isn't something I want to support.

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