Quote Originally Posted by weekend View Post
If you're really stuck on this oral only cycle, I would add 5-10 mg of dbol, and maybe run some tbol with the epiandro. Keep the epiandro dose around 450 cyclo complexed. If you want the 11-oxo in there, use 600-800 mg a day and that will give good results

I promise your joints and libido will crash eventually, just stop before your injure yourself.

There will be plenty of shrinkage by week 8 on epiandro alone.
Unfortunately man, I kind of have to go with orals and TD right now.

How do you feel about a trest/stano/11-oxo run? Trest is the closest thing right now to use as a test base and some people go as far as to say they like it better than test.

But if used solely as a base, 50mg ED of trest, along with a mix of oral stano (cyclodextrin) and TD stano, coupled that with 11-oxo at 600mg+. All ran together for a total of 8 weeks with a minimum 6 week PCT. Honestly, I'm even thinking of adding 11-spray to round a "dual trifecta" of both oral and TD for all 3 compounds.

So ideally, half the total dose as an oral and the other half as a TD. This way I can reap the benefits of both worlds. I would more than likely tweak the stano dosing a little seeing as how the half/half strategy doesn't equate as good with it compared to trest and 11-oxo/11-KT. But you get what I mean. Sucks there isn't much feedback on TD stano.

What do you think about that for a cut, weekend? With the trest, I'm thinking a combo of oral and TD to get the best of both worlds; 25mg oral and 25mg TD.

I would like to keep the trest low just to make sure no excessive estro occurs, and of course I'll have an AI on hand if it should. Although maybe the stano might keep estro at bay given it's DHT-type characteristics. A lot of guys who have ran trest enjoyed it thoroughly as low as 50mg, so on a cut I think it would work great at this dose.

This run would seem great for a first timer trying to get his feet wet. All non-methyls, yet still effective given the right dosing.

Or I can squash it all and go with epistane as a first.