Test E vs P

[Rodja]

Hmmmm, I may look into doing it instead of Deca then...

Deca has the same dosing protocol, but is more suppressive and has more estrogen/progesterone side effects.

[Cobalt]

Deca has the same dosing protocol, but is more suppressive and has more estrogen/progesterone side effects.

I've heard that it didn't have the same joint 'lubrication' effects as deca, which is why I didn't try it last time.
As seeing that it apparently does do it, I really don't see a reason NOT to run it instead.

[burlyman30]

I've heard that it didn't have the same joint 'lubrication' effects as deca, which is why I didn't try it last time.
As seeing that it apparently does do it, I really don't see a reason NOT to run it instead.

You'll get differing opinions here. I think you will "feel" the deca more and it probably lubricates the joints a bit more even at half the dosage of EQ. However, I have read that EQ's collagen building attributes are slightly superior to deca even though it is not quite as potent on skeletal muscle.

Also keep in mind that EQ is a slow builder and I would never recommend it for any cycle shorter than 16 weeks, with 20+ being better.

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[Cobalt]

Also keep in mind that EQ is a slow builder and I would never recommend it for any cycle shorter than 16 weeks, with 20+ being better.

Wow, a 20+ week cycle? I did a 12 week run last time, and I was going to aim for a 16 week this time...

What do you think would be a better cycle, a 16 week with deca or 20 with eq?

[Mr_math]

Yeah I was thinking 12 wks w/ no more than 300 E and something else to go with it. I'm not looking for a huge monster cycle. Honestly was planning cruising for a bit on around 250-300 total a week. Slow n steady.

[burlyman30]

Yeah I was thinking 12 wks w/ no more than 300 E and something else to go with it. I'm not looking for a huge monster cycle. Honestly was planning cruising for a bit on around 250-300 total a week. Slow n steady.

That's a nice cruiser, although I'd take it to 14 or 16 weeks at that lower dosage.

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[burlyman30]

Wow, a 20+ week cycle? I did a 12 week run last time, and I was going to aim for a 16 week this time...

What do you think would be a better cycle, a 16 week with deca or 20 with eq?

Keep in mind you are talking about daily injects for 16-20 weeks if you stay with the test p. Not sure if that would be a factor. Again, opinions will differ on this, but if you were looking to bulk a bit more, I'd do the deca and if you wanted a leaner slower gain, I'd probably go EQ.

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[Mr_math]

That's a nice cruiser, although I'd take it to 14 or 16 weeks at that lower dosage.

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Makes sense. Just want the first run to be something I can ease into and see how it all works out. More so the process not really the product itself. If I were to run something with the E I'd end up keeping overall dose under 300. Probably 250. Just need to determine what would be the best choice.

[burlyman30]

Makes sense. Just want the first run to be something I can ease into and see how it all works out. More so the process not really the product itself. If I were to run something with the E I'd end up keeping overall dose under 300. Probably 250. Just need to determine what would be the best choice.

I think you would likely be happiest running test at 300 and deca at 3-400. My. 02. Inexpensive, effective, but not bloated beyond recognition.

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[Mr_math]

I think you would likely be happiest running test at 300 and deca at 3-400. My. 02. Inexpensive, effective, but not bloated beyond recognition.

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Hmm... Will keep this in mind as I get closer... Few things I really need to iron out first.