Test E vs P

[Mr_math]

Any one have thoughts on halo 30-35mg/day with test e at 300/wk?

Moreso, just any thoughts on halo? Are the sides that severe?

[burlyman30]

Any one have thoughts on halo 30-35mg/day with test e at 300/wk?

Moreso, just any thoughts on halo? Are the sides that severe?

For clarification, are we talking about halodrol or halotestin?

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[Mr_math]

For clarification, are we talking about halodrol or halotestin?

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My bad. Halotestin.

Also should have mentioned this is in terms of strength not aesthetics.

Posting in class only gets me so far

[burlyman30]

Halo will get you strong, no doubt. It's stronger than var IMO, but a few degrees higher on the toxicity meter. Id use it before a meet, but in regular year-round cycling Id probably go with var instead as you can stay on it longer with relative safety.

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[Freepressright]

All this talk of Deca and no talk of using proviron or masteron to add androgenic potency. Tsk, tsk!

[burlyman30]

All this talk of Deca and no talk of using proviron or masteron to add androgenic potency. Tsk, tsk!

Can't imagine using those for a 16-20 week cycle. They reduce my flexibility and stiffen/dry up my joints. But that's just me. I could tolerate 8 weeks at a time.

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[Cobalt]

All this talk of Deca and no talk of using proviron or masteron to add androgenic potency. Tsk, tsk!

I brought up Mast in a different thread, you need to play catch up fpr!

Speaking of Var (all your fault burly), I went ahead and grabbed a gram since my source had some available.

I've yet to run into anyone that has done this, but I didn't want to run it as a daily, consistent thing. I was considering using it as part of a pre-wo, and try to benefit from it's ability to "burn fat" and "give pumps." I quote those, because they seem to be the constant replies from those who have used it.
I used to do about 30-40mg of oral deca about 30 mins pre-wo and I would always have an insane workout. Tons of energy and strength, and I felt great. That was even when I wasn't on a cycle, and I only used it as a pre-wo.
The theory sounds kinda stupid, but it works for what I wanted.

[Freepressright]

Can't imagine using those for a 16-20 week cycle. They reduce my flexibility and stiffen/dry up my joints. But that's just me. I could tolerate 8 weeks at a time.

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Wouldn't the joint-lubricating magic of the Deca offset any dry joints perpetuated by DHT?

[DJM]

Wouldn't the joint-lubricating magic of the Deca offset any dry joints perpetuated by DHT?

possibly, iv read that winny plays well with deca, and mast/npp is a great combo

few guys run deca low, 200mg/wk just for that magic, and run their cycle as normal

[Rodja]

All this talk of Deca and no talk of using proviron or masteron to add androgenic potency. Tsk, tsk!

This is very user and dose dependent. I have run 400mg of deca (along with 500mg of E) and had zero issues. You're also forgetting that one of the main reasons that deca is such a good steroid is that it isn't very androgenic while being very anabolic. If collagen rebuilding is the concern, then EQ is the better choice. If looking simply for increased lubrication in the joints via extra synovial fluid, then 200-300mg of deca would be fine.