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    Quote Originally Posted by silverstrand View Post
    Dude! I think I stumbled upon the reason for PFS - how and why it continues to persist. Not entirely sure on how to correct it other than doing what I'm doing. It is refreshing to know. On top of taxing all hormone processes throughout the body, we have indeed created an environment that suppresses 5ar on an ongoing basis. This is not a genetic mutation at all. Its a desensitization and recalibration forced on the body over many months. The body naturally suppresses 5ar through estrogen formations. My body currently is on hyperdrive in creating estrogen. Slowing this cycle down seems to be the only logical approach. CD, you did this both by use of DHT prohormone and resveratrol. I'd have to say RES was likely a bigger contributor to your recovery than the DHT prohormone but who cares really in your case because you are healed. I believe Estrone is more of the culprit than commonly tested Estrodial.
    I will continue on course. I realize now why all my other attempts have failed and why currently, I'm getting the best results so far. I will continue to update.
    It was more then that, but I see what you're trying to say. EVERYTHING I did was to boost Test/Dht/5ar and lower/flush estrogens from the system, from diet, to exercise, to supplements....continually, non-stop over many months and years. As I've always said, the cycle's were only part of it.

    And...not to rain on your parade, but it's common knowledge that PFS guys are estrogen dominant and they have low 5ar.
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    Consistently nudging these things back in line seems to be the only way. That concept has stuck with me the most.

    Silver , how's your sugar intake ? Do you eat a lot of sugar ? The less I eat the better I feel.
    I was focusing on gluten and eating organic meat, veggies and fruit for a long time. Avoiding the sugar seems to give me the most noticeable results diet wise

    Was interesting to see English make it a point to mention avoiding sugar . Other "pfs guys" recently have made the same connection with sugar and how they feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5 alpha victim View Post
    Consistently nudging these things back in line seems to be the only way. That concept has stuck with me the most.

    Silver , how's your sugar intake ? Do you eat a lot of sugar ? The less I eat the better I feel.
    I was focusing on gluten and eating organic meat, veggies and fruit for a long time. Avoiding the sugar seems to give me the most noticeable results diet wise

    Was interesting to see English make it a point to mention avoiding sugar . Other "pfs guys" recently have made the same connection with sugar and how they feel.
    For me, I haven't noticed too much of a sugar connection. However, I do intend to eliminate it from my diet even further. My sugar intake is relatively low, at least processed sugars. Sugars from fruits is another story; I tend to enjoy a lot of fruits.

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    Some bad news. I've been a victim of the Aliso Canyon Gas Leak. My sleep has been terrible the past several months even though my hormone test numbers have been improving. Its Fucking unbelievable that here I am eating clean, being as healthy as possible but all the while being poised by this shit. I've recently relocated to Ventura and finally things are improving. I had no idea what was wrong. If any of you are in the LA area, take a look to see what proximity you are to this gas geyser. Its toxic! Burning eyes, chest pains, insomnia, shortness of breath, tightness of the neck and throat, head aches, lethargy, nose bleeds, etc... and that's only the short term effects! Some of this stuff says in your system forever! I'm so pissed - with everything I've been going through... to dealing with this. Hopefully, now I will be in better health soon. I hope to sue this fucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverstrand View Post
    12/02/2015


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    __________________________________________________ _____________________
    As of 10/7/2015

    FSH 2.3 mlU/mL
    LH 2.3 lU/mL
    Testosterone Total 551 ng/dl (240-950)
    Testosterone Free 4.78 pg/mL (4.25-30.37)
    Bioavailable Test 251 ng/dl
    Estrone 47 pg/mL (12-72)
    Estradiol 21.8 pg/mL
    Estriol, Serum <0.1 ng/mL
    SHBG 44.4 nmol/L (10-57)
    DHT 121 ng/dL (30-85)

    Pregnenolone 14 ng/dL (<151)
    Progesterone <0.15 ng/mL
    Prolactin 3.52 ng/ML (2.5-17.0)

    DHEA-S 154 ug/dL (80-560)
    DHEA 1.86 ng/mL (1.8-12.50)
    Free Cortisol .15 ug/dL

    Vitamin D Total 43.2 ng/mL (>30-100) (this surprises me because I'm taking 5000 iu daily) - thought it'd be higher

    Total T4 6.6 ug/dL (4.5-12.5)
    T3 Reverse 12.6 ng/dL (9.2-24.1)
    T3 Uptake 28% (22-35)
    T7 (FTI)(Calc.) 1.8 Index (1.0-4.4)
    TSH (3rd gener.) .549 ulU/mL (.340-5.6)
    Thyrogl.Auto Abs <20.0 IU/mL (<40)
    TPO Antibody <10.0 IU/mL (<35)

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    As of 11/5/2015

    Total T4 5.9 (4.5-12.5) ug/dl
    Fee T3 2.93 (2.3-4.2) pg/ml
    Ferritin 129 (28-365) ng/ml
    Vit D (25-OH) 41.9 (>30 -100) ng/ml

    FSH 3.1 (1.4-18.1) miu/ml
    LH 4.2 (1.5-9.3) miu/ml
    Progesterone .45 (.28-1.22) ng/ml

    Estradiol 40.5 (<39.8) pg/ml
    Estrone 56 (12-72) pg/ml
    SHBG 49.2 (10-57) nmol/l
    Total Testosterone 572 (240-950) ng/dl
    Free Testosterone 3.87 (4.25-30.37) pg/dl

    DHEA-S 118 (80-560) ug/dl
    DHEA 2.45 (1.8-12.5) ng/ml

    Jel, anyone, whats the ideal Ferritin level - there's mixed info on the web?
    Also, estrogen and shbg are killing my test levels plus taxing my adrenals. I'll be working on this.

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    12/02/2015

    TSH 1.071 (.340-5.6) uIU/mL
    Total T4 6.8 (4.5-12.5) ug/dl
    Free T4 1.2 (.8-1.9) ng/dL
    Fee T3 3.28 (2.3-4.2) pg/ml
    Ferritin 161 (28-365) ng/ml
    Vit D (25-OH) 48.3 (>30 -100) ng/ml

    FSH 4.0 (1.4-18.1) miu/ml
    LH 5.7 (1.5-9.3) miu/ml
    Progesterone .25 (.28-1.22) ng/ml

    Estradiol 40.0 (<39.8) pg/ml
    Estrone 78 (12-72) pg/ml
    SHBG 46.2 (10-57) nmol/l
    Total Testosterone 691 (240-950) ng/dl
    Free Testosterone 5.91 (4.25-30.37) pg/dl

    DHEA-S 178 (80-560) ug/dl
    DHEA 2.56 (1.8-12.5) ng/ml

    Fuck me, my estrogen is stubborn!

    12/29/2015

    TSH .011 (.340-5.6) uIU/mL
    Total T4 9.1 (4.5-12.5) ug/dl
    Free T4 1.9 (.8-1.9) ng/dL
    Fee T3 5.06 (2.3-4.2) pg/ml
    T7 (FTI)(Calc) 3.1 (1-4.4 Index)
    T3 Uptake 34.3 (22-35%)
    Vit D (25-OH) 55.1 (>30 -100) ng/ml

    FSH 8.5 (1.4-18.1) miu/ml
    LH 19.5 (1.5-9.3) miu/ml
    Progesterone .25 (.28-1.22) ng/ml

    Estradiol <11.8 (<39.8) pg/ml
    Estrone 53 (12-72) pg/ml
    SHBG 65.2 (10-57) nmol/l
    Total Testosterone 849 (240-950) ng/dl
    Free Testosterone 11.90 (4.25-30.37) pg/dl

    DHEA-S 179 (80-560) ug/dl
    DHEA 2.98 (1.8-12.5) ng/ml

    IGF-1 155 (115-307) ng/ml
    HDL 54 (>40 mg/dl)
    LDL 73 (<100 mg/dl)

    Notes: Finally controlling estrogen to some extent. Its surprising because my SHBG went up. I still have too much conversion to Estrone; however, I'm backing off now on Estrogen control because Estrodial is low and my LH is way too high. I'm also reducing Thyroid support - TSH is low and T3 is high. I will tapper down slowly and follow with tests.
    Some positives is finally my Free Test broke its strangle hold even with SHBG rising.
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    Ferritin should be in upper half, but not over the top- I think 2/3 of range is good enough would not go over that level (except for some TRT guys).
    Your estradiol is good in latest blood test, SHBG is a bugger but not too many successful stories there except for TRT.
    Thyroid is sluggish, it seems that brain is not detecting low levels for some reason,
    upp your pregnenolone doseage,
    you can increase your vitamin d as well,
    not sure why you're still taking DHT supplements?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    It was more then that, but I see what you're trying to say. EVERYTHING I did was to boost Test/Dht/5ar and lower/flush estrogens from the system, from diet, to exercise, to supplements....continually, non-stop over many months and years. As I've always said, the cycle's were only part of it.

    And...not to rain on your parade, but it's common knowledge that PFS guys are estrogen dominant and they have low 5ar.

    Not me though, and i saw a few others like me too. I struggled to raise my E numbers although i suffered the same symptoms as anyone. My last bloods (just about 6 weeks ago i think) revealed T over 800 (can't recall free T but it was right at the top of the range) yet E was low end normal. And just to pour some more confusion on it, i saw plenty of guys blood results with normal and even quite high DHT numbers - made no difference, they still suffered. For me, i believe it's a sensitivity issue. When a person is frightened, stressed, hopeless for a period of time, genes downgrade and the body or brain produces proteins that block out normal androgen response. The exact same symptoms are seen in anyone in the middle of a nervous breakdown, and viewing the condition in this way is extremely helpful to the persons chances of recovery for obvious reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverstrand View Post
    For me, I haven't noticed too much of a sugar connection. However, I do intend to eliminate it from my diet even further. My sugar intake is relatively low, at least processed sugars. Sugars from fruits is another story; I tend to enjoy a lot of fruits.
    It's a no brainer to remove all processed sugar from diet, and if you've not noticed a sugar connection, it is probably because you still take a "relatively" low amount of processed sugar. You have to stop completely. It's ridiculous to be doing a hundred other things, taking supplements and even pro hormones and/or chemicals to alter other blood result items while still eating processed sugar- makes no sense to me. I hit the recovery path 100%, no stone unturned, in particular the mental side of things and recovery came relatively fast. In the opening weeks of my recovery plan, i occasionally has some sugar or did some other thing wrong, and each time, i berated myself for it and it put me back. I quickly realised this was not helpful, and within weeks i got on it 100% which allowed me to be mentally strong knowing each day i had done everything in my power....

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