Quote Originally Posted by English View Post
Fuck me silverstrand. When are you going to realise that you need to look at what worked with guys like CD, me, entropy, mitch, chi........ I don't ever remember a recovery story involving a shed load of chemicals.

You do not need an endo or - brilliant as he is - Jel - You need a spiritual awakening my friend, you need to believe in your own bodies ability to repair itself with proper nutrition, exercise and mindset. I've read about tens of people, male and female with thyroid issues that cured themselves with a mixture of lifestyle and mental changes. Yes you might need some thyroxin or whatever it is on a temporary basis, but you must wean yourself off prescription drugs, and your body will recover provided you point it in the right direction with your mind.

Also, amazed to see Brazillian guy on clomid etc. I know he has been on the right path in the past.

What is it with you guys? You see what people who recover do, you start doing it for a period of time that is always too short, and then turn to chemicals.

You need to believe in nothing but a very healthy lifestyle and a very positive and happy mental approach for at least 24 months. If you genuinely follow the path of CD, entropy, me, mitch, chi ........... for that period of time, and you maintain a daily positive mental attitude, laughing etc. you will see massive gains to full recovery in that time.


You're totally right English. The best protocol for me so far was gym, diet (less carbs but still eating them), Brazil nuts and tribulus. When I cycled the tribulus, surprisingly I got 75% recovered for 2 months, during these 2 months I hang out with a lot of girls, my friends even said, calm down or you will get an STD. The problem after that was that I wanted to get even better, like 100% again, and I decided to try progesterone cream because I saw some guys getting great results from it.

Progesterone cream made me crash hard, also, I know some guys will disagree, weed made me crash hard and gave me gynecomastia.

My experience with tamoxifen was interesting, because the first 3 days on 20mg made me feel 40% recovered, then I took 10mg with tribulus everyday and got 50% recovered, was feeling really good until I started to notice some joint pain, and before the pain I took 0.5mg of Adex just to prevent any increase of E. Man this made me get an estrogen rebound so strong that my nipples started to burn and I was hanging out with a girl, I was getting good and bad very fast, like moody, some times happy. I could achieve 5 erections with her, but the day after I crashed.

Clomid gave me bigger balls, and 30% better, but I think my body was already saturated from serms because I was taking E3D and sometimes it was too much for me (even 12.5mg) and I was getting tired and my dick was shrinking. So I decided to stop, will wait the medicine get out of my body and then cycle tribulus.


My friend is getting good experience with sustain alpha, but sometimes he thinks he takes too much, like his emotions disappear, like he feels a lack of dopamine, so music start to not sound so great, orgasm gets a little bit worse.



CD, I'd like to ask you a question if it doesn't mind you. Do you think the most beneficial and faster recovery came after androhard? I mean, not by androhard itself, but if I'm not wrong, you took it for 6 weeks, and then PCT, when you started the pct, did you notice sustain alpha working better? Also the same with the herbs? I'm asking it because you got 6 weeks without using it and it's time enough to leave your system, so would give better results. Also that's what I feel with tribulus, and my friend said he felt the same with sustain alpha.

Also when you were on PCT would you apply sustain alpha exactly like it is said to apply or you took less, because I read that you said that sustain alpha would obliterate your E, and my friend is getting the same thing, he asked me to ask you because he doesn't have a profile here.


Thank you.