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    ~ Remember Andro Hard? Of course you do!! ~

    Whats up Swole Source. Still been reading the forum here and there, really not posting much, been super busy but still following alot of the guys on here, logs, etc..

    Anyways hope you are all well.

    So I wanted to give you guys some good news. Iron Mag Labs is getting ready to begin producing the coveted ingredient "R DHEA aka "R Andro aka Androsterone" which is the main ingredient that was in ANDRO HARD.

    I do not know if this will be mixed in with their Super Epi Andro product, or if it will be sold on it's own.

    But I wanted to tell you guys first. Please don't copy and paste this to other boards, as truthfully this is really not something I should be sharing. But I am with you guys.

    When I have a date that it will be ready, you will be the first to know.

    Again, hope you are all well and if anyone needs me, Im still here ED/EOD reading




    R- ANDRO -Main effects –


    + Strength
    + Hardening
    + Bloat reduction
    + Recovery
    + Anti-estrogen
    + Sex drive
    + Aggression


    Primary metabolite –

    Androstanediol (5-AA)

    Description –

    R-DHEA is known as “Reduced DHEA” because it is a 5a-reduced metabolite of DHEA. It’s more commonly referred to as androsterone.

    This naturally occurring hormone cannot convert to testosterone, but instead converts to the dihydrotestosterone (DHT). (10, 18) Similar to testosterone, DHT is responsible for masculine traits such as aggression, sex drive, and physical strength. (19,20) However, because DHT cannot convert to estrogen, it also helps reduce fat storage and water retention, making it an excellent steroid for increasing muscular hardness and vascularity.

    R-DHEA will stack well with 5-DHEA or 4-DHEA as it will help reduce water retention from under the skin, thus creating a “dry” and hard appearance. R-DHEA also has moderate anabolic properties thus allowing it to help enhance lean muscle gains. (21)

    Strength gains will also be noticeable with R-DHEA due to its strong androgenic effect which will activate the central nervous system and increase muscular power. (20) This will increase explosive power with minimal bodyweight increase. The increased aggression is typically a welcomed benefit, which manifests as increased confidence and an “alpha male” feeling in sexual and social activities.

    The strong androgenic action from R-DHEA will also help support libido and erection hardness. (20) This makes R-DHEA useful to help counter the sexually suppressive effects from other steroids. The powerful androgenic effect will also block estrogenic effects, and help prevent (and reverse) gyno. (22, 23)

    Side-effects from R-DHEA will be limited to androgenic side-effects such as oily skin, acne, and increased hair shedding if the user is prone. These side effects are mild and temporary for most users.
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    That's awesome, great to hear and good to see you still around Wes!! This is what was in AHv2, which for me personally hit the hardest out of any DHT ph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strong_Guy View Post
    That's awesome, great to hear and good to see you still around Wes!! This is what was in AHv2, which for me personally hit the hardest out of any DHT ph.


    Good to see you too man

    And great news. I figured The SS crew would truly love this option. I am excited to give it a shot when it comes out.

    Ty for saying hello and hope you are well man!!
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    Interested to know if it'll be a product on its own. I think that would be the best option. Also, will this be esterified androsterone or androsterone unesterified? Regardless, I'm in 100%. Androhard V2 was esterified androsterone.

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    I got excited until you said it was like AHv2. That was the worst one for me. Made me feel like complete shit. Damn.....
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    StrongGuy- I will ask. But based on the fact they changed their entire line to SUPER or esterfied versions, I would imagine it would be esterfied. I hope it is alone too. I will try and find out asap for you guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    I got excited until you said it was like AHv2. That was the worst one for me. Made me feel like complete shit. Damn.....

    On my bottle of AHV1 I am holding in my hand it has the ingredient as "Androsterone" at 250mgs per serving. This is the same ingredient as "R Dhea" according to what I have seen, is it not?
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    Androsterone listed on label is misprint. It is epiandrosterone confirmed by Eric for Androhard V1. R-Dhea can be androsterone or epiandrosterone. I'd call it "Ra-dhea" for androsterone or "Rb-dhea" for epiandrosterone. Eric added Super to Ra-dhea and Rb-dhea to denote esterification.

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    ~ Remember Andro Hard? Of course you do!! ~

    Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    StrongGuy- I will ask. But based on the fact they changed their entire line to SUPER or esterfied versions, I would imagine it would be esterfied. I hope it is alone too. I will try and find out asap for you guys.




    On my bottle of AHV1 I am holding in my hand it has the ingredient as "Androsterone" at 250mgs per serving. This is the same ingredient as "R Dhea" according to what I have seen, is it not?
    Jealous that you're holding that bottle in your hand, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    I got excited until you said it was like AHv2. That was the worst one for me. Made me feel like complete shit. Damn.....
    I did notice some lethargy with v2 as well, but it seems like the version 2 line in general caused some issues regarding this. That being said I received more vascularity and MUCH more strength from v2 as compared to both v1 & v3. The strength increase was insane, I haven't found anything quite like it since.

    At any rate a product containing the a-isomer (androsterone) would be great since there is a limited market out there for it.

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    I do often wonder if problems caused by V2 was the result of so much grapefruit extract increasing absorption to the point where not so much hormone was actually needed. Each capsule was the equivalent to 1 cup of grapefruit juice and the serving size was 3-6 capsules, where V3 6 capsules equaled 1 cup of grapefruit juice.

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