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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy View Post
    Ohhhhh. I have a bad habit of buying 100g or so and burning 4-5 grams 2-3 times a week. I'm seriously considering burning some now actually. Odd that the pure leaf sucks from that company though? I use exclusively ground leaf from a different vendor (UK based) and find it pretty potent.
    "Burning" Someone's been spending time on the Kratom forum.....lol

    It will and does lower Test, so becareful. Anything that tickles the opiate receptor does, despite the fact that mitragyna is only a partial agonist. Years ago I went on a couple month long binge where I was taking 20-30 grams of potent bali per day. Not only did I go through a hell of a withdrawl, but the effect on hormones was pronounced.

    Kratom is a fun substance....truly unique. I loved trying different strains and experiencing the vast differences between their effects. If used properly it can completely replace the need for pharmaceutical pain killers. I also liked to take it before sex as it has the ability to prolong intercourse.

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    So yeah. I've tried a lot of Kratom. A LOT. And here's some great information/ brands/ info for you! All backed. All proven.


    Brands-
    OPMS Kratom is great capped plain leaf. No extract but it's dank.
    Underground Supps.com-their enhanced bali and Q-Bomb are the shit.
    Phoenix Kratom 30x is pretty friggin dang good.
    Eden's Ethnos Bali is amazing.


    Golden reserve. $12/G Kratom. Is it good? Yes. Is it worth that much? Not really. When your tolerance is low, and you only use it like 1-2 week and give breaks in between....a good quality plan leaf is more than good enough. But if your tolerance is high...golden reserve at say a gram to 1.5 is gonna be pretty good.


    Potentiate AND Lower Tolerance AT THE SAME TIME😎

    So this is tried, true, backed by science potentiation/ a way to keep tolerance low. Just try it with whatever your regular dose is and tell me if you don't notice a difference.

    8oz Grapefruit Juice, 1 gram Agmatine-Yep, not only pumps but potentiates opiates/Kratom AND lowers tolerance.

    30 Min later 60mg dxm...again...potentiates opiates/ Kratom and keeps tolerance low

    20-30 After-Take Kratom



    Cliff Notes-
    For extra sedation. Throw in some antihistamines-at your discretion when u take the DXM. The grapefruit juice WILL potentiate the antihistamine so be wary of that.

    Dosing. Just like most drugs, if you dose only 1-2 times that day and try to dose only once, you WILL keep tolerance lower than multiple dosings.

    Agmatine has been studied for potentiating opiates AND keeping tolerance low. If you do some reading u will find your anwser.

    I've taken a lot of Kratom/ I've taken a lot of pain meds and personally....potentiated Kratom...is my fav. Cheap. Way easier for me to put it down and not crave it, and it's a HELLUVA lot of fun. And I can say for fact, and you can look up studies....but Dxm and agmatine not only potentiate....but also lower tolerance.

    Also, I'd you have pain, YES-IT TRULY WORK AS WELL AS PAIN MEDS. So not just for fun.


    So yeah! Get some Kratom. Potentiate. And tell me what you think. It's most certainly NOT placebo.
    Great post!!
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    Yeah. I've been reading a lot lately, over the years ever since I was a kid I've had sporadic depression and motivation problems. Kratom totally annihilates it. On that note though I think it'll have to be a once or twice a month thing.
    Cervix stabbing ftw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy View Post
    Yeah. I've been reading a lot lately, over the years ever since I was a kid I've had sporadic depression and motivation problems. Kratom totally annihilates it. On that note though I think it'll have to be a once or twice a month thing.
    You would be safe with weekend usage as long as you only dose once each day (Saturday and Sunday) and then stop until the following weekend.

    You could use this instead of alcohol and not have to worry about a hangover or getting too fucked up. At that usage schedule you run very little risk of developing a problem unless you start dosing multiple times per day and then start adding days.
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    To be honest I usually dose 4-5 grams and rarely see any need to redose. So maybe once a week like phenibut? This is interesting! I'm not a drinker as it is really but I'm not so much looking for the recreational aspect as the productivity. It's fantastic.
    Cervix stabbing ftw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy View Post
    To be honest I usually dose 4-5 grams and rarely see any need to redose. So maybe once a week like phenibut? This is interesting! I'm not a drinker as it is really but I'm not so much looking for the recreational aspect as the productivity. It's fantastic.
    5 grams was my sweet spot too. Yeah you can easily do once a week without issue. This stuff is no where near as bad as phenibut when it comes to tolerance and addiction potential. It can be abused, but unlike phenibut you really have to work at it. I still say you can do twice a week, single doses with no problems.
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    Alright. I think I'll try twice a week and split the days up. It's soooo useful for work productivity etc.
    Cervix stabbing ftw.

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    Tried it first time. Green at 5mgs did nothing, except I felt a bit angry on it.

    5mgs of Red at night messed me up for the entire next day. Felt like I was going to throw up, weak and disoriented almost. Def made my body feel tingly and like pain meds would. Either way these are not for me at all. Im a stims guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    Tried it first time. Green at 5mgs did nothing, except I felt a bit angry on it.

    5mgs of Red at night messed me up for the entire next day. Felt like I was going to throw up, weak and disoriented almost. Def made my body feel tingly and like pain meds would. Either way these are not for me at all. Im a stims guy.
    I gave 5g's of a red thai strain to a stims guy and he was nodding out and such. I was quite surprised. I think it's strange that there's definitely stims and downer people out there.. Tbh the only preworkout that hasn't made me feel like I'm cracked out but still actually worked is ultimate orange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy View Post
    I gave 5g's of a red thai strain to a stims guy and he was nodding out and such. I was quite surprised. I think it's strange that there's definitely stims and downer people out there.. Tbh the only preworkout that hasn't made me feel like I'm cracked out but still actually worked is ultimate orange.
    fro realsies about peeps who like uppers and downers

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    "for realsies" holy shit Nate, my sides.
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