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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyjonas View Post
    Cheers CD, I'm going to go for juice feast, My plan is to start from tomorrow, I've googled around as I am totally new to juice feasting, would you recommend a particular website for good info on it?

    Thanks man

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    I think I'm all good for now man, so in this order this is my plan

    1. Juice Feast for two weeks
    2. Paleo Diet + Carb Backload
    3. Weights 3 times a week plus HIIT
    4. Cycle the Herbs
    5. Meditate

    I will throw in the 5a DHP product once I get it

    Thanks for the help and advice man

    Cheers

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    Hi Lads, just to check back in with an update on how things are going as im at the 9 month mark Post fin.

    I was initially sloppy with introducing the protocol and my first juice feast wasnt a full one to be honest and included some solids so I decided to feast again recently for a longer period and after this point is when I noticed real improvements, the biggest indicator to me was scalp itch returning after the last feast, that had completely vanished for the past nine months and it has come back with a vengeance which i am very happy about, this coincided with a huge boost mentally and boost in libido, its the first time i felt really myself since this began. My morning wood is becoming consistent and really strong lasting for a long time now, my sensitivity is really good on head but stiil numb on shaft.
    My curve is still quite bad, its like banana shaped to the left but what all of the above proves to me is that when I stick to the protocol as intended I get the benefits, when i slack off I go back ten steps.

    I have had slip ups with alcohol for example the week i had scalp itch back i went for drinks with missus for her birthday i actually didnt wake up fucked i was ok and not wracked with anxiety however i pushed my luck the next night and had some more drink and next day I felt back to square one, anxiety flooded back along with no morning wood and no libido, no scalp itch, only myself to blame for this.

    So basically if I do the protocol as intended i reap the benefits mentally and physically, if i slack i go back ten steps. But things are moving in the right direction above all i have hope now that I will escape this.

    For me my biggest obstacle in recovery is me and my lack of dicipline at times, I am pretty sure ild be all good by now if i hit the protocol hard right from the word go. But its cool, I know what i have to do.

    The longer this goes on I am understanding PFS more and how I can beat it, its losing its hold over me and I dont fear it as much, the answer is me being really disciplined for an extended period of time to fully beat it. Its not the bubonic plague it can be overcome, I am very very thankful for the help and positivity here, I may not be here if I was still stuck on PH, I shudder to think of how bad i felt for the first few months after fin it was the blackest period of my life lingering on PH and really considered ending my life, I kept reading stories of guys saying theres no way back and living with pfs for years, I took a walk to a local canal in the pouring rain, knocked back a load of vodka and was very close to checking out, there was no hope online it was fucking horrible I basically lost myself I thought better going now as it cannot be overcome and i will never be who i was and dont want to be this empty shell wracked with constant fear but the negativity i was reading had a huge part to play in how i was feeling. I wish this site was more known as unfortunately the default site is ph when you first search sides. Anyway im glad im still here and fought through the early months so thank you for this site.

    I also think the PFS Foundation do not help matters they need to know that sending monthly emails telling you that you are permanently fucked does NOT help, like seriously how fucked up is that sending that shit to men who are on the edge, imagine a cancer foundation sending out emails saying hey guys we found a new study confirming youll be permanently screwed and wont recover, the tone is just so hopeless, I really dont get their logic, its like a determination to prove its permanent. They should be directing men to the protocol and saying this is what you need to overcome pfs.

    I still have major issues with how i was dealt with by the clinic I was prescribed in dublin, before its all no it doesnt cause sides its all loons on the net but then when I go back and say doc im in trouble ive got bad sides his response yes it can happen im afraid and the door is closed on you with no suggestion how to treat, total dirtbag. I hope karma has its way with him. I feel an obligation to warn guys in my city not to fall for his bullshit pr, But really I have to park all that for now and just focus fully on getting better.


    Anyway the moral of my story is the stricter i am with the protocol the greater the benefits i feel, theres no mystery its just discipline, oh and for now ive avoided prohormones i was tempted but i think i just need to give this a lot more time before i try anything else. Im still a ways off but moving in the right direction.

    Thanks again lads

    Jimmy

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyjonas View Post
    Hi Lads, just to check back in with an update on how things are going as im at the 9 month mark Post fin.

    I was initially sloppy with introducing the protocol and my first juice feast wasnt a full one to be honest and included some solids so I decided to feast again recently for a longer period and after this point is when I noticed real improvements, the biggest indicator to me was scalp itch returning after the last feast, that had completely vanished for the past nine months and it has come back with a vengeance which i am very happy about, this coincided with a huge boost mentally and boost in libido, its the first time i felt really myself since this began. My morning wood is becoming consistent and really strong lasting for a long time now, my sensitivity is really good on head but stiil numb on shaft.
    My curve is still quite bad, its like banana shaped to the left but what all of the above proves to me is that when I stick to the protocol as intended I get the benefits, when i slack off I go back ten steps.

    I have had slip ups with alcohol for example the week i had scalp itch back i went for drinks with missus for her birthday i actually didnt wake up fucked i was ok and not wracked with anxiety however i pushed my luck the next night and had some more drink and next day I felt back to square one, anxiety flooded back along with no morning wood and no libido, no scalp itch, only myself to blame for this.

    So basically if I do the protocol as intended i reap the benefits mentally and physically, if i slack i go back ten steps. But things are moving in the right direction above all i have hope now that I will escape this.

    For me my biggest obstacle in recovery is me and my lack of dicipline at times, I am pretty sure ild be all good by now if i hit the protocol hard right from the word go. But its cool, I know what i have to do.

    The longer this goes on I am understanding PFS more and how I can beat it, its losing its hold over me and I dont fear it as much, the answer is me being really disciplined for an extended period of time to fully beat it. Its not the bubonic plague it can be overcome, I am very very thankful for the help and positivity here, I may not be here if I was still stuck on PH, I shudder to think of how bad i felt for the first few months after fin it was the blackest period of my life lingering on PH and really considered ending my life, I kept reading stories of guys saying theres no way back and living with pfs for years, I took a walk to a local canal in the pouring rain, knocked back a load of vodka and was very close to checking out, there was no hope online it was fucking horrible I basically lost myself I thought better going now as it cannot be overcome and i will never be who i was and dont want to be this empty shell wracked with constant fear but the negativity i was reading had a huge part to play in how i was feeling. I wish this site was more known as unfortunately the default site is ph when you first search sides. Anyway im glad im still here and fought through the early months so thank you for this site.

    I also think the PFS Foundation do not help matters they need to know that sending monthly emails telling you that you are permanently fucked does NOT help, like seriously how fucked up is that sending that shit to men who are on the edge, imagine a cancer foundation sending out emails saying hey guys we found a new study confirming youll be permanently screwed and wont recover, the tone is just so hopeless, I really dont get their logic, its like a determination to prove its permanent. They should be directing men to the protocol and saying this is what you need to overcome pfs.

    I still have major issues with how i was dealt with by the clinic I was prescribed in dublin, before its all no it doesnt cause sides its all loons on the net but then when I go back and say doc im in trouble ive got bad sides his response yes it can happen im afraid and the door is closed on you with no suggestion how to treat, total dirtbag. I hope karma has its way with him. I feel an obligation to warn guys in my city not to fall for his bullshit pr, But really I have to park all that for now and just focus fully on getting better.


    Anyway the moral of my story is the stricter i am with the protocol the greater the benefits i feel, theres no mystery its just discipline, oh and for now ive avoided prohormones i was tempted but i think i just need to give this a lot more time before i try anything else. Im still a ways off but moving in the right direction.

    Thanks again lads

    Jimmy
    Good on you. I know the struggle with substances. I struggled myself in the beginning. But it wasn't until I realized I was never gonna get out of it if I didn't commit that I started making strides.

    Just know, you will be able to drink normally again....just not today, or tomorrow.....but one day. That day comes sooner the longer you stay on the correct path.

    Keep on going my man.
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    Way to go, buddy! You'll be fully recovered before you know it. Just keep plugging away!

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    Hey Jimmy, good to see you have a lease of life. Keep at it man, the rewards come in fits and starts at first but they're there and they're real. I've had issues with discipline too myself, particularly with noFap and porn which has knock on effects to all kinds of brain chemistry and can cause the exact same symptoms as PFS in and of itself. One thing I can say is that stretches of days where I stick absoloubtly to the protocol are days that I'm feeling best. Keep at it man and keep us updated!

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    Thanks for the support lads, it is much appreciated, we'll get there!

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    Hi Lads

    Checking in with an update, it's been just under a year of living with pfs and things are really picking up for me in the last few weeks, everything is getting better in terms of symptoms, sensitivity a lot better, curve not as severe, mentally i feel im returning to who I was before I touched fin.

    I am a musician and hadn't been able to write a song until the last couple weeks, this after a year of nothing, no Creativity, Like a year in the black, in every way, sexually, mentally, existing not living, I know everyone here can relate to that.

    I've been keeping my head down, exercising before work, eating clean and rotating the herbs everyday, thats really it, no prohormes as of yet, my favourite herbs are he shou wu and Pine Pollen. I had a few bad slips with alcohol in early stages but since May ive got my shit together and consistently have chipped away with the protocol and in last few weeks I feel everything is turning for me, CD mentioned in a post about getting that feeling of calm after it being gone for so long and I felt that for first time last couple weeks, I was in tears I am not afraid to admit that after wanting to feel like me for so long.

    A year with pfs is not long as I know many guys here live with it for years and years, I feel for you guys I really do, 10 plus years with PFS is some serious cross to bear, I admire your strength to have hung in there.

    Its been a crazy year, early months hanging on prop help and solve pfs, reading every study i could find about pfs, visiting countless docs, a shrink, all of this led me to a half botched suicide attempt, I thought I was done for, I remember being called into head office by my boss basically asking what the fuck is wrong with you, everyone is worried about you, I grew a beard and lost a ton of weight, it was a humiliating moment for me having been at the top of my game in my job for so long and was very close to losing my job, my livelihood. Christmas was a horror show and did not see a light, I didn't want to hang around if this was the way things were going to continue. Thankfully I feel very different today, im not 100% but i'm close.

    The turning point for me was finding Swole Source and cds posts and protocol. Not overnight, its hard and takes time but improvements do come. I love how this forum approaches PFS, there's no talk of doom, there's no you're fucked forever, there's none of that negativity. Im my opinion that minsdset is half the battle along with applying the protocol. Almost everyone you come across on Prop Help is not improving or getting worse, these guys dont realise they are standing in their own way and are bringing everyone else down with them, I still blame the admins of these sites as their prophecies of doom have a hugely negative effect on new guys that join up and believe what they are reading. Sadly, many young guys are gone that bought into that doom, fucking tragic.

    Finally whats really helped me is to stop trying to understand PFS, it's something that nobody fully understands and much valuable time is wasted going down that road, Durantia hit on that in a recent post and I fully agree. Propecia is a seriously dangerous drug and should be removed from the market but to recover putting those thoughts aside and just chipping away with protocol is essential, also ive limited my time visiting the site, as much as I love this community it has helped me to limit my visits and keep my mind on life and living, ive gone from a few times a day to once or twice a week, its helped me anyway.

    Im not 100% but a hell of a lot better and firmly believe I will come out of this in a better place physically than I was before I started. God bless you CD, you are doing a serious service to your fellow man by running this community the way you have, which has in my opinion saved lives, if you are ever in Ireland I owe you a pint of Guinness.

    Cheers lads

    Jimmy

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    Dealing with PFS, specifically with numbness

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyjonas View Post
    Hi Lads

    Checking in with an update, it's been just under a year of living with pfs and things are really picking up for me in the last few weeks, everything is getting better in terms of symptoms, sensitivity a lot better, curve not as severe, mentally i feel im returning to who I was before I touched fin.

    I am a musician and hadn't been able to write a song until the last couple weeks, this after a year of nothing, no Creativity, Like a year in the black, in every way, sexually, mentally, existing not living, I know everyone here can relate to that.

    I've been keeping my head down, exercising before work, eating clean and rotating the herbs everyday, thats really it, no prohormes as of yet, my favourite herbs are he shou wu and Pine Pollen. I had a few bad slips with alcohol in early stages but since May ive got my shit together and consistently have chipped away with the protocol and in last few weeks I feel everything is turning for me, CD mentioned in a post about getting that feeling of calm after it being gone for so long and I felt that for first time last couple weeks, I was in tears I am not afraid to admit that after wanting to feel like me for so long.

    A year with pfs is not long as I know many guys here live with it for years and years, I feel for you guys I really do, 10 plus years with PFS is some serious cross to bear, I admire your strength to have hung in there.

    Its been a crazy year, early months hanging on prop help and solve pfs, reading every study i could find about pfs, visiting countless docs, a shrink, all of this led me to a half botched suicide attempt, I thought I was done for, I remember being called into head office by my boss basically asking what the fuck is wrong with you, everyone is worried about you, I grew a beard and lost a ton of weight, it was a humiliating moment for me having been at the top of my game in my job for so long and was very close to losing my job, my livelihood. Christmas was a horror show and did not see a light, I didn't want to hang around if this was the way things were going to continue. Thankfully I feel very different today, im not 100% but i'm close.

    The turning point for me was finding Swole Source and cds posts and protocol. Not overnight, its hard and takes time but improvements do come. I love how this forum approaches PFS, there's no talk of doom, there's no you're fucked forever, there's none of that negativity. Im my opinion that minsdset is half the battle along with applying the protocol. Almost everyone you come across on Prop Help is not improving or getting worse, these guys dont realise they are standing in their own way and are bringing everyone else down with them, I still blame the admins of these sites as their prophecies of doom have a hugely negative effect on new guys that join up and believe what they are reading. Sadly, many young guys are gone that bought into that doom, fucking tragic.

    Finally whats really helped me is to stop trying to understand PFS, it's something that nobody fully understands and much valuable time is wasted going down that road, Durantia hit on that in a recent post and I fully agree. Propecia is a seriously dangerous drug and should be removed from the market but to recover putting those thoughts aside and just chipping away with protocol is essential, also ive limited my time visiting the site, as much as I love this community it has helped me to limit my visits and keep my mind on life and living, ive gone from a few times a day to once or twice a week, its helped me anyway.

    Im not 100% but a hell of a lot better and firmly believe I will come out of this in a better place physically than I was before I started. God bless you CD, you are doing a serious service to your fellow man by running this community the way you have, which has in my opinion saved lives, if you are ever in Ireland I owe you a pint of Guinness.

    Cheers lads

    Jimmy
    Congratulations my friend you are well on your way to recovery.

    You know what you need to do and you just have to keep on doing it. You are going to be absolutely amazed at how good you can actually feel on a daily basis once you blow past the PFS stage of things and keep going into the alpha stage. Words can't describe it.

    These are the kind of posts that make it all worthwhile to me.

    If I'm ever in Ireland, I'll take you up on your offer!

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    Dealing with PFS, specifically with numbness

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyjonas View Post
    Hi Lads

    Checking in with an update, it's been just under a year of living with pfs and things are really picking up for me in the last few weeks, everything is getting better in terms of symptoms, sensitivity a lot better, curve not as severe, mentally i feel im returning to who I was before I touched fin.

    I am a musician and hadn't been able to write a song until the last couple weeks, this after a year of nothing, no Creativity, Like a year in the black, in every way, sexually, mentally, existing not living, I know everyone here can relate to that.

    I've been keeping my head down, exercising before work, eating clean and rotating the herbs everyday, thats really it, no prohormes as of yet, my favourite herbs are he shou wu and Pine Pollen. I had a few bad slips with alcohol in early stages but since May ive got my shit together and consistently have chipped away with the protocol and in last few weeks I feel everything is turning for me, CD mentioned in a post about getting that feeling of calm after it being gone for so long and I felt that for first time last couple weeks, I was in tears I am not afraid to admit that after wanting to feel like me for so long.

    A year with pfs is not long as I know many guys here live with it for years and years, I feel for you guys I really do, 10 plus years with PFS is some serious cross to bear, I admire your strength to have hung in there.

    Its been a crazy year, early months hanging on prop help and solve pfs, reading every study i could find about pfs, visiting countless docs, a shrink, all of this led me to a half botched suicide attempt, I thought I was done for, I remember being called into head office by my boss basically asking what the fuck is wrong with you, everyone is worried about you, I grew a beard and lost a ton of weight, it was a humiliating moment for me having been at the top of my game in my job for so long and was very close to losing my job, my livelihood. Christmas was a horror show and did not see a light, I didn't want to hang around if this was the way things were going to continue. Thankfully I feel very different today, im not 100% but i'm close.

    The turning point for me was finding Swole Source and cds posts and protocol. Not overnight, its hard and takes time but improvements do come. I love how this forum approaches PFS, there's no talk of doom, there's no you're fucked forever, there's none of that negativity. Im my opinion that minsdset is half the battle along with applying the protocol. Almost everyone you come across on Prop Help is not improving or getting worse, these guys dont realise they are standing in their own way and are bringing everyone else down with them, I still blame the admins of these sites as their prophecies of doom have a hugely negative effect on new guys that join up and believe what they are reading. Sadly, many young guys are gone that bought into that doom, fucking tragic.

    Finally whats really helped me is to stop trying to understand PFS, it's something that nobody fully understands and much valuable time is wasted going down that road, Durantia hit on that in a recent post and I fully agree. Propecia is a seriously dangerous drug and should be removed from the market but to recover putting those thoughts aside and just chipping away with protocol is essential, also ive limited my time visiting the site, as much as I love this community it has helped me to limit my visits and keep my mind on life and living, ive gone from a few times a day to once or twice a week, its helped me anyway.

    Im not 100% but a hell of a lot better and firmly believe I will come out of this in a better place physically than I was before I started. God bless you CD, you are doing a serious service to your fellow man by running this community the way you have, which has in my opinion saved lives, if you are ever in Ireland I owe you a pint of Guinness.

    Cheers lads

    Jimmy
    Seriously great to see this post from you JJ, really good too to hear that you're well on your way to being out of it. I guarantee that are course of RAndro would put you over the line at this stage but even if you don't it won't be long. You're bang on about solve PFS and PH, those places are literally costing people their lives unnecessarily and it's a fucking tragedy and it's that kind of misinformation that has caused me promise myself that I will to never turn down anyone looking for help in navigating PFS. CD has done a great thing here, to the extent that we can say that people's lives will be saved, they really will.
    Anyway keep going man, it's a great feeling when you feel that your finally putting it in the rearview it really is. I'll see you there.

    EDIT: I'm joining yas for the pint when it happens!

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