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    thanx for the reply my family wants me to go and see a shrink is that going to help?
    my endocrinologist dont want me to fast it will harm me i have a high metabolism soo 2 weeks starve will kill me and i want how the fast help with ED my urologist never heard of such a thing and also about sun exposure and piens pump he believes that peins pump can cause ed ?

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    Dude, you need to relax. We all know what you're going through. We've all been there. I went through the initial panic phase too. But once you get over that, and just focus on a plan to better yourself, and cure your PFS, that anxiety will go away. PFS is not un-curable.

    No, a shrink will not help. Nor will a doctor, endocrinologist, urologist, etc. They cant help, because they are simply misinformed and do not understand PFS. I have fast metabolism too, and allthough I will not be starting my fast for another 2 days, i do not believe it will kill you. If you water fast, you would only do so under medical/professional supervision. If you juice feast/fast, you will be taking in fruits and vegetables broken down into their liquid state, and that would likely be enough to keep you going.

    I do not see how sun exposure would hurt you. That's common sense. A certain amount of melatonin is required for the human body. As long as you dont overdo it and burn the shit out of yourself.

    I don't know too much about a penis pump, so as far as that goes, you would have to ask someone else.

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    thanx for the reply mu family wants me to c a shrink my endocrinologist hit me in the head with his pen and kicked me out saying how can i have sides with high dht high testosterone higer than range acne in my back is killing me oily skin oily hair my urologist is considered about my dht fearing i may develop a enlarged prostate in the future
    my problem is i am not convinced that my sides are psychologic or my mind make me think i got sides and i am not convinced about how can a protocol have a starving period will help me ? i will probably turn into a skeleton or die really most ppl eat food and enjoying it i eat food to live actually I stopped feeling hungry or eat for fun or what normal ppl do since i made a commitment to the gym I spent an year with out eating a single carb that was when i was 17 years old i ended up with a ripped but skinny body and build my self from there
    all i want is a cure for ed is peins transplant or implants or bionc is a cure should i start saving money for them?

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    I just went back and read what some of the other guys said in response to you. It almost sounds like you dont even have PFS. You even said that you can look at a sexy pic of a woman, or just a thought, and get hard from it. Did you ever take any 5AR inhibitors like propecia/finasteride, saw palmetto etc? If you have PFS, then the protocol here has already been laid out for you. Just believe in it and do it.

    If not, and if this is just simply "ed" that you have, then your battle to fix your problems should be even easier to fix than someone with PFS. ALOT EASIER! Stop panicking. Listen to what the other guys have already told you.

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    1. Yes a shrink may benefit you, it has me in the past but be aware that not every shrink is for every person and that it may not be a good "fit". I had to leave my first one as I realised that we had totally different values. But I disgress, if your ED is psychologically created then a shrink may absolutely help you get over it.
    2. Ahmed you seem to be consistently misunderstanding what this protocol is and how it works. The fast will not cure ED but it will 1. Help your body focus on repair as it uses a lot of energy just to digest what you eat and 2. Put your body into a more receptive state to the protocol once you end the fast. Your urologist will not have heard of such a thing because this protocol is a holistic approach that utilitises multiple angles of attack to help cure PFS by getting the body and mind in the best position to support the correct hormonal state. Every facet of it is designed to point towards that, not one of these things will cure PFS ED (which I honestly doubt you have), particularly in the wrong state of mind.
    3. It doesn't matter what your metabolism is a one or two week juice fast will not kill you. You get plenty of nutrition from the fruit and veg in the juice. Also, I'm an extreme ectomorph with a very high metabolism, not dead.
    4. What the fuck are you talking about with a transplant? You are quite possibly in very real risk of having a mental breakdown if that's the line of thought that you are heading down. It makes no sense, this is curable if it's PFS or if its purely psychological. In either case, the protocol WILL HELP as at the very least the various parts of it will give you a positive feedback loop as opposed to the unnecessary anxiety ridden maelstrom that seems to be going on in your mind currently.
    5. Yes, a penis pump used incorrectly can damage a penis. However the bath mate listed seems to be much safer. However it is not 100% necessary as it is aimed at those not getting any nighttime or morning wood so that the penis does not get the blood flow it needs leading to poor health of the penis. If you are still getting hard in your sleep it probably not that necessary. I'm starting the protocol without one due to lack of funds.
    6. Maybe this is just my cultural ignorance showing but I can't for the life of me work out why you keep writing penis as "piens".

    So, go to your shrink and look to tackle your ANXIETY not erectile dysfunction. Start the protocol. You will get better, working on your body and mind like this will solve your ED. It is that simple man.

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    yes i took fin for 3 days a drug i was afraid to take for the past 2 years lost 70% of my hair density in those 2 years so i took it
    imi am sorry but I trust my doctor and medical aspect more than the internet i come from a family of doctors 7 siblings are doctors
    my endocrinologist is a professor 66 years old i was under his supervision when i was competing in bodybuilding he cured tons of guys with hormones issues he was in a medical team that made a study on sex offense and rapest in the uk by using female hormones and how much it took them to loose there libido so it will be common sense if didn't believe me or thinking its my psychology
    thanx fro ur replay and help but i am sorry man u took fin when u was 17 when i was 17 i was afride to take an aspirin or to drink a beer or a protein supplement not a hormone changing drug so we are in vary different places when it comes to body health or health fear in my case i hope u recover really

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    thanx for the reply and sharing ur experience
    my issue is i am not believing in how can a shrink help my ed?
    second is how can a protocol that has everything i do in my life since i was a teen helps me or my ed?
    i am in a very fucked up place just the thought of ed is make me wana cripple myself and be done with so u can see why am asking about a cure and surgical operations
    not convinced about this self healing with starving ur self since it's pretty much human nature to eat and this whole digestive system needs a rest period
    i am a muslim we fast a whole month a year it pretty much intermittent fasting when i fast with my maintaining diet for that month I lose muscal mass and bf so i only imagine what 2 weeks fast will do to me i lost sone mass from skipping the gym and turn my life into shit cause of finasteride and pfs and the internet i can't afford to lose more
    my only problem is ed my urologist also not convinced 3 pills will do sides cuse it don't make sense really
    my issue is ed i am convinced i got from fin and the common sense and studies and my experience with hormones u cant get sides form a couple pills even cocian and heroine are not like that in the other hand i feel ed but i am convinced it cant be psychologic cause i dont believe is psychologic issues so u can see the battle that's happening in my head

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    Here is the problem....there are several of them.

    Language barrier. This is difficult enough to explain and get through to guys speaking the same language as me let alone someone speaking a different language.

    Secondly, we are giving you advice and you are choosing not to take it and you are questioning it. This isn't making things any easier for you.

    You already have preconceived notions to what is going to work and what won't work. So why ask questions here?

    You either choose to jump in with both feet, or you don't.

    Those are you only options.
    Total Male Optimization "People who say it can't be done shouldn't interrupt those that are doing it"

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    I choose not because it doesn't make any sense especially the cleansing part for guy who has been healthy for the past 10 years i see guys saying give ur digestive system a break funny thing it's called digestive system it need to digest before u say clean the fin pills I took they are long gone from my system i have read all the studies on the drug
    I thought this place was a better place but it turned out to be another loony house ppl claiming shrinked peins from 2 pills minox cause"pfs" ppl crashes after eating peanuts guy can't sleep deep but still sleep 7-8 hr for a year after one pill guys took fin before 21 and blaming the drug for there sides
    I should have listened to my doctor a fucking professor that no way in hell u get sides from 3 pills and even if i did they are gone but noooooo I listened to a bunch of strangers online saying i am fucked fir good or other group of stranges telling me to start a protocol to healthy living and follow it the same way a typical pro science cuse if its not a pro science u should answered differently when i keep saying i am living healthy since 16 years old counting macros increase my metabolism rate changes work outs plane to fit my goals before it was "cool"
    so thanks for putting me in this loop i am done
    one last thing is almost every guy was happy popping there first fin pill except me cause i wasn't happy to be reducing dht or mess with my hormones i looked at it as death sentence and keep saying if i found sides i will stop its all cuse I lost 60% of my hair in 2 years after reading how long guys took fin with sides they would jumped on a tranny regime if thy expected a fast hair loss
    hope the ones with the real sides recover as for the looneys here thanx for make my feel like shit

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    why no one wants to answer me

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmed wolf View Post
    I choose not because it doesn't make any sense especially the cleansing part for guy who has been healthy for the past 10 years i see guys saying give ur digestive system a break funny thing it's called digestive system it need to digest before u say clean the fin pills I took they are long gone from my system i have read all the studies on the drug
    I thought this place was a better place but it turned out to be another loony house ppl claiming shrinked peins from 2 pills minox cause"pfs" ppl crashes after eating peanuts guy can't sleep deep but still sleep 7-8 hr for a year after one pill guys took fin before 21 and blaming the drug for there sides
    I should have listened to my doctor a fucking professor that no way in hell u get sides from 3 pills and even if i did they are gone but noooooo I listened to a bunch of strangers online saying i am fucked fir good or other group of stranges telling me to start a protocol to healthy living and follow it the same way a typical pro science cuse if its not a pro science u should answered differently when i keep saying i am living healthy since 16 years old counting macros increase my metabolism rate changes work outs plane to fit my goals before it was "cool"
    so thanks for putting me in this loop i am done
    one last thing is almost every guy was happy popping there first fin pill except me cause i wasn't happy to be reducing dht or mess with my hormones i looked at it as death sentence and keep saying if i found sides i will stop its all cuse I lost 60% of my hair in 2 years after reading how long guys took fin with sides they would jumped on a tranny regime if thy expected a fast hair loss
    hope the ones with the real sides recover as for the looneys here thanx for make my feel like shit
    So let's get this straight; on top of being consistently borderline rude, obnoxious and conderscending to anyone who has tried to help you, you are now blaming us all for your problems when we have told you time and again to calm the fuck down and that they are likely in your head. This is along with the fact that you still seem to have no clue or understanding as to the processes that the protocol utilises (not to mention simple punctuation) in order to help your body and mind regardless of whether you actually have PFS or not. I can only speak for myself here but all I can say to you now man is good fucking riddance.

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