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    why no one wants to answer me

    all iam asking is
    can I start the program with out the herbs ? i cant buy them we dont have visa here
    like I mentioned before i have a high testosterone high dht levels so are they going to do anything for me?
    do i need to feast? cuz i have been eating healthy for the last 10 years also never smoked or driked ever so what am I cleaning really?
    my only issue is ed that keeps bothering me and self regret of taking that shit that i was scared of taking for 2 years am i imagining things or i am permanently wrecked like those rare cases in propeciahelp should just save for a peins trasplant or a bionc peins if they cure ed or just cripple myself and live happy cuz it will make seance i will get ed cuz i am a crippeld

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    I guess the answer to your questions to be blunt are that the program is there for you and you have to commit and do it all, otherwise don't bother.

    That comment definitely applies to the fast / feast part. Without doing the cleanse, you are missing the major part of the program. I dare say that is far more important than the herbs. I believe English who recovered didn't use the herbs too much so my advice would be to get on the program and just skip the herb part if you are unable to get them.

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    u didn't understand me what can the protocol offer me if i am already living healthy? what am I cleansing really? egg whites and chicken breasts fruits and vegetables i have been eating for the past 10 year? how can feast on water and juice foe 2 weeks help my ed? for the record i took fin for 3 days

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    Toxins and other things that we are exposed to from day to day life build up as far as I know.

    The feast is meant to cleanse the system before you build it up to be stronger than it was. You might not think you need it but we all probably need to cleanse every now and then, especially if we are running into issues.

    Cdnuts will be able to explain this better than I am able to.

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    I think another reason why people are hesitant to help you here is because you're not even attempting our advice at all.

    One user told you the best thing you could do was to leave these forums for a few days and not worry about it, and I even told you myself you don't sound like you have PFS at all based off your story, but yet pretty much everyday we still see you here posting horrified sounding posts, telling us you keep reading about side effects.

    Again, based off your story, you sound like you just spank the monkey too damn often and you've probably given yourself a form of porn-induced erectile dysfunction (PIED), which is unrelated to PFS but then again with you taking Finasteride and worrying this much about its effects, your probably attributing even more stress to your brain-dick connection and causing further problems.

    Look man, leave these forums for like a week or 2. Take some cold showers. Don't masturbate the entire time. Continue living healthy. Do some squats and other things that raise testosterone.

    If you still feel you think you have something extra going on, come back and comment again. But literally one of the worst things you could be doing to yourself (besides going to watch more porn and fapping to it) is reading horror stories of people who actually have PFS and worrying whether you gave it to yourself or not.
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    first of all
    I don't masterbate 2-3 times a day since i only masterbate 1 every other day ir every 2 days thats mean 3-4 times a week also i am not a porn freak it takes me a picture of naked women or a thought to get me hard
    second I stopped reading stories cuz i went threw them all a while back i am also here cuz i want an answer not to freak myself
    third i keep mentioning that i am pretty much healthy my whole like aslo squats dont raise test thas a myth working out ya but its a spike for a short time and i got tired from mentioning i have a high testosterone
    last thing is how my situation is mental while u claiming shrinked piens from 2 pills?? studies showed ed can happen from a pill but not a shrinked piens there were studies done on rats that they were given a100mg of fin a day that showed a shrinking in the rats so ?
    l want an answer is there a cure for ed ot not like a real cure not ?

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    still don't understand y u keep answering the same answer with different words? I explained myself that i live healthy and what toxic i get threw the day? if i stay a at home most of the day

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    Ok man, I've already told you I'm no expert (by a fucking mile) and that no one here knows that if you even have PFS or not but you keep asking whether to start the protocol or not so I'm just gonna tell you yes. If the herbs are 100% not available to you then start the protocol doing everything else and see what happens because that will be 100% better than the torturing yourself that you are doing now. Everything in that protocol will help you in some way so go do that and focus on and stop worrying about the sides. Come back and tell us how you are in two weeks.

    EDIT: Also do the fast. Even though you eat healthy and don't drink/smoke it will benefit you as it will give your digestive system a chance to focus solely on repair (you've used it every day since you were born so it has its fair share of damage done to it through wear and tear).
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    Being blunt, I think you've just scared yourself shitless and you are actually in all likelihood fine bro, with the bulk of your erection issues being stress related. That is not me criticising, issues with mental stress causing ED are very very real. Just relax and go about your life without freaking yourself out.

    True story, several years back I confided in my best friend regarding my PFS issues and the effect they were having on me sexually. My friend has a full head of hair and has never taken anything like fin, and after hearing about what I was going through and thinking deeply about it he had his first (and only) bedroom failure with his partner the following day. The mind is powerful stuff.

    And if you do wish to do the protocol to cover all bases, by all means go with it, without the herbs if need be. But you seem to ask should you do it then tell us you're healthy so it wont help. You've already made your mind up in that regard.

    I think you need to focus on beating the demons in your head and the fear they are bringing first and foremost, irrespective of whether your issues are finasteride related or not.
    WORK! CONSUME! DIE!

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    As the guys are saying above if you can't get the Herbs just do the rest, stop doubting, you have nothing to lose man, it can only improve things from where you are at now. Whats the alternative? Go on as you have been, posting on the forums asking the same questions over and over. Has that helped you? Quite the opposite it has made you worse and brought you to where you are now. If you keep doing it you will be stuck, can't you see that? The mind is very very powerful, more than we fully understand, if you keep reading and posting about erectile dysfunction well that's what you'll get. It imprints on your brain. What helps me is I say to myself fuck it! so what if I have ed I'm still breathing and start from there, laugh at your fears and they will fade with time, it's a battle with your demons.

    So the advice is do everything you can with the protocol without the Herbs and most importantly stop posting on the forums particularly hairlosstalk etc, there are guys there who are fucking nuts, I had one guy email me regularly telling me he was going to kill himself at any moment and that he had been off fin for months then I'd see him telling someone else he was still on it, and someone else he was off it only a week, total bullshitter who did not have PFS but almost wanted to believe he did and tell everyone else they did have PFS almost delighted in it. I believed that shit at first and thought oh fuck there is no hope I was very close to suicide it's hard to unread that shit But it does fade away once you cut off from it.. So is this what you want with your life? Listening to that fucking poison every day? How will you get better by doing that?

    Here is a good positive place I've been feeling a lot stronger since finding here, I still have a lot of work to do and have bad days but nobody can fast for you and work out for you, YOU have to do it yourself, believe in it. Get rid of the doubts about it. Try it for even a month and come back Ahmed you can only feel better than where you are now.

    Anyway I'm not saying anymore on it, you have all the advice you need to get better and you will if you get off the computer and just do it.

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