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    Hormones + caffeine = great pre-workout

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    Caffeine increases progesterone, pregnenolone, T, DHT, allopreg, 5AR in brain

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    Hormones + caffeine = great pre-workout

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    Really? I didn't realize the prohormones had any kind of immediate effect


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    Caffeine increases progesterone, pregnenolone, T, DHT, allopreg, 5AR in brain

    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover View Post
    Really? I didn't realize the prohormones had any kind of immediate effect


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    Absolutely. I can always feel them within a half an hour to 45 minutes after dosing.

    You can't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover View Post
    Do you tend to take caffeine pills or drink coffee to get so much caffeine?


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    caffeine pills from nutrabio, I would suggest using it with niacinamide or a herb

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    Caffeine increases progesterone, pregnenolone, T, DHT, allopreg, 5AR in brain

    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    I can always feel them within a half an hour to 45 minutes after dosing

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    Interesting. I don't feel noticeable boosts, just a cumulative increase as the cycle progresses.

    I have been reading recently about the long term benefits of people that take testosterone.

    As I understand, superhuman levels of testosterone seem to change the body in positive ways that you actually retain, even long after you've gone off cycle and your natural production is normalized.

    Do these prohormones have a similar effect?


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    Caffeine increases progesterone, pregnenolone, T, DHT, allopreg, 5AR in brain

    Quote Originally Posted by TubZy View Post
    caffeine pills from nutrabio, I would suggest using it with niacinamide or a herb
    I'm a huge fan of the caffeine & theanine stack, but I will try niacinamide as well


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    Caffeine increases progesterone, pregnenolone, T, DHT, allopreg, 5AR in brain

    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover View Post
    Interesting. I don't feel noticeable boosts, just a cumulative increase as the cycle progresses.

    I have been reading recently about the long term benefits of people that take testosterone.

    As I understand, superhuman levels of testosterone seem to change the body in positive ways that you actually retain, even long after you've gone off cycle and your natural production is normalized.

    Do these prohormones have a similar effect?


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    In my experience and in my opinion, yes they do. That's why they work so well to increase your Baseline during your recovery. Each time you cycle you retain some benefits from that cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover View Post
    I'm a huge fan of the caffeine & theanine stack, but I will try niacinamide as well


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    One of my favorite hands down

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover View Post
    I'm a huge fan of the caffeine & theanine stack, but I will try niacinamide as well


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    Yeah, theanine works well actually. I prefer niacinamide, I like it better, but theanine works well too, increases GABA, lowers serotonin, cortisol etc.

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    Caffeine increases progesterone, pregnenolone, T, DHT, allopreg, 5AR in brain

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    One of my favorite hands down

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    I've taken every day for a month at this point & can't thank you enough.

    Any other nootropics/ stacks you recommend?

    15 years straight having taken adderall I'm definitely used to being in the zone...anything natural that gets me there is very nice


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