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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    Smh....

    You guys should not be second guessing any of the herbs recommended.

    No need to get hysterical.
    Haha just wanted to check, in no way do i doubt the master!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snell1234 View Post
    Pine pollen tincture has dhea in it. Is that still okay to use?
    The amount is minuscule (microgram to very low milligram range)

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    I've looked for the amounts of the hormones in the tincture but haven't been able to find them anywhere. Is androsterone at a decent level in it?

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    Hey tubzy,i have seen you recommend pregnenolone at 150 mg to be stacked with the R andro for guys suffering from pfs related ball shrinkage despite having a very high LH hormone.
    Therefore, what if I go for the R andro, preg and 4 Andro stacked together.
    Would you advise that?
    Or should i stick with either the 4 andro or the preg when it comes to stacking with the randro?

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    Hey tubzy, another question here. I plan on using r andro myself shortly as well. But since you always mention niacinamide, i was wondering what a good, legit, potent brand to purchase would be?

    I respond very well to caffeine/coffee, and i have felt the benefits and stimulation of niacin in the past many times!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The battler View Post
    Hey tubzy,i have seen you recommend pregnenolone at 150 mg to be stacked with the R andro for guys suffering from pfs related ball shrinkage despite having a very high LH hormone.
    Therefore, what if I go for the R andro, preg and 4 Andro stacked together.
    Would you advise that?
    Or should i stick with either the 4 andro or the preg when it comes to stacking with the randro?
    Hold off on the preg first I would say and start with just R andro and niacinamide. See how you react first you may not even need to mess with since preg can be much more tricky to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K8668B View Post
    Hey tubzy, another question here. I plan on using r andro myself shortly as well. But since you always mention niacinamide, i was wondering what a good, legit, potent brand to purchase would be?

    I respond very well to caffeine/coffee, and i have felt the benefits and stimulation of niacin in the past many times!
    pure encapsulations and nutrabio are both good brands (no crappy fillers, hypoallergenic etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TubZy View Post
    Hold off on the preg first I would say and start with just R andro and niacinamide. See how you react first you may not even need to mess with since preg can be much more tricky to deal with.

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    pure encapsulations and nutrabio are both good brands (no crappy fillers, hypoallergenic etc.)
    Tubz, I'm starting my second cycle, and I'm wanting to get the absolute most out of this. The following things I am planning to incorporate into my daily doses along with the R-andro.

    Caffeine 100 mg 2x daily
    Asprin 325 2x daily
    Niacinamide 500mg 2x daily
    5adhp-1-5 drops 2x daily
    preg-low dose 2x daily
    T3/4 with each meal
    Plenty of fruit- mainly cherries and OJ
    Naltrexone-Currently in the mail. Dose?
    5 Drops diamant 2x daily to help everything more easily cross BBB

    Anything else you'd recommend or change?
    Its only work until its routine

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover View Post
    Tubz, I'm starting my second cycle, and I'm wanting to get the absolute most out of this. The following things I am planning to incorporate into my daily doses along with the R-andro.

    Caffeine 100 mg 2x daily
    Asprin 325 2x daily
    Niacinamide 500mg 2x daily
    5adhp-1-5 drops 2x daily
    preg-low dose 2x daily
    T3/4 with each meal
    Plenty of fruit- mainly cherries and OJ
    Naltrexone-Currently in the mail. Dose?
    5 Drops diamant 2x daily to help everything more easily cross BBB

    Anything else you'd recommend or change?
    That looks really good actually. However, unless you absolutely need the thyroid and preg I don't think it is necessary while using R Andro since androsterone can mimic T3 so you can overstimulate metabolism and potentially feel worse.

    I would start with less first maybe with just R andro, niacinamide, caffeine and aspirin.
    And if you want you can add in naltrexone and 5a-dhp but that might be overkill.

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    For that are asking how R-Andro works for PFS

    Not gonna lie I do feel pretty damn stimulated right now.

    Any idea how much it mimics T3?

    I'd like to adjust my thyroid supps to stay in the tsh sweet spot


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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover View Post
    Not gonna lie I do feel pretty damn stimulated right now.

    Any idea how much it mimics T3?

    I'd like to adjust my thyroid supps to stay in the tsh sweet spot


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    Dosage, Not sure for the thyroid equivalent, though only a few milligrams of androsterone inhibited like (80%+) of estrogen so I'm sure it doesn't take much. Even 5-10mg's of androsterone and you can feel the metabolic effects so not much is needed at all.

    I would just play it by ear, stick to your prescribed meds, and add in 1 cap of R andro and see how you feel. And do that for a day or two and if you feel good then add a second cap in and so on so forth. I probably wouldn't go over 400mg of R andro if you are planning to add in all that other stuff. Remember all that stuff lowers cholesterol as well including R andro, so make sure your cholesterol levels are good (high enough) and are eating enough nutrients and sugar/carbs.

    For me, R andro and niacinamide burns up glucose pretty fast (even higher doses of niacinamide alone does) so I can't imagine being on NDT, preg, aspirin, diamant etc. you must be eating sugar all day lol so you don't go hypo
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