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    @Cdsnuts you have pfs for about 5 years. at what stage did your sleep go back to normal? I know things started to go faster once protocol was dialed in but was it the first year or deeper in like 4th year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    @Cdsnuts you have pfs for about 5 years. at what stage did your sleep go back to normal? I know things started to go faster once protocol was dialed in but was it the first year or deeper in like 4th year?
    I had it for longer then five years.....I was on fin 2003-2007, I found PH in 2007, so that's when I stopped, but I had symptoms pretty much six months after I started....just didn't realize it was the propecia. I'd say I was in the shit for a good 7, or maybe 8 years. Obviously to varying degrees as I healed. I made my recovery post in 2012.

    Sleep was always touchy with me, but when that started to come back, the healing really accelerated. I'd say for me, sleep really got good towards the last year or so. Keep in mind I'm going off shady memory.....

    I just remember waiting which seemed like forever to post my recovery because I wanted to make sure I had no more nasty downswings. I was pretty much good from the beginning of 2012 onward....I believe I made my recovery post in August of that year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    I had it for longer then five years.....I was on fin 2003-2007, I found PH in 2007, so that's when I stopped, but I had symptoms pretty much six months after I started....just didn't realize it was the propecia. I'd say I was in the shit for a good 7, or maybe 8 years. Obviously to varying degrees as I healed. I made my recovery post in 2012.

    Sleep was always touchy with me, but when that started to come back, the healing really accelerated. I'd say for me, sleep really got good towards the last year or so. Keep in mind I'm going off shady memory.....

    I just remember waiting which seemed like forever to post my recovery because I wanted to make sure I had no more nasty downswings. I was pretty much good from the beginning of 2012 onward....I believe I made my recovery post in August of that year?
    nice yeah. I just find it peculiar that my sleep is still this dodgy during downswings. thanks! Found out my neighbors kids were playing basketball in the wee morning hours too so that might've woke me up too but couldn't get back to sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    nice yeah. I just find it peculiar that my sleep is still this dodgy during downswings. thanks! Found out my neighbors kids were playing basketball in the wee morning hours too so that might've woke me up too but couldn't get back to sleep.
    Everyone is a little different when it comes to symptoms. Sleep is just one of the more pesky ones for you. It is what it is man. It will all work itself out in the end. You know the drill. You don't need to do anything other then what you've been doing.
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    question about 4 andro. don't think I want to cycle again because it suppressed me and don't want to roll the dice again with that (recovered from it tho after about 3 weeks).

    I still have a bottle though. would use 4 pills of it biweekly on a saturday be cool and not cause suppression but just a nice little bump? just load myself for extra test when im out clubbing? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    question about 4 andro. don't think I want to cycle again because it suppressed me and don't want to roll the dice again with that (recovered from it tho after about 3 weeks).

    I still have a bottle though. would use 4 pills of it biweekly on a saturday be cool and not cause suppression but just a nice little bump? just load myself for extra test when im out clubbing? :P
    You could do that, yes. I've done similar things
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    sweet. yeah i'm thinking about doing that primarily on cycle too. going to a swingers club with this brazilian friends with benefits i have lol

    anyone on here down for thailand? slide in the dm's. thinking about doing it november while on cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    sweet. yeah i'm thinking about doing that primarily on cycle too. going to a swingers club with this brazilian friends with benefits i have lol

    anyone on here down for thailand? slide in the dm's. thinking about doing it november while on cycle
    Lol.....nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    sweet. yeah i'm thinking about doing that primarily on cycle too. going to a swingers club with this brazilian friends with benefits i have lol

    anyone on here down for thailand? slide in the dm's. thinking about doing it november while on cycle
    im gonna have to pass on this, but next year time to get yucky in Vegas!!! haha

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    starting my 4th cycle today! just gunna do 400 r-andro and maybe some 4-andro on saturdays not chronically.

    last night was pretty wicked. had sex with 2 new girls. sexually was very close to 100%. strangely I don't respond to porn as much as I did but sex wise I get aroused about the same. (I generally abstain from porn but have some cheat days once every 2 weeks or so).

    beet juice powder is very good btw. I added it to my shakes and think it's gunna be a new staple. highly recommend.
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