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    Lost Empire PinePollen Tincture just arrived today. Took about 60 droplets before a workout. Workout was good. Strength and energy good. No longer feel the exhaustion after just 20 minutes. Went for a whole hour or more with little exhaustion. Looks like a new baseline really is here to stay. Also, feeling that tightness and lactic acid burn that was felt pre PFS. These look like good signs! Had vegetable pancakes (just a few eggs and veggies) and a sweet potato after the work out.

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    for me the one's I feel the most are butea superba, tribulus, ashwagandha, pine pollen powder, rhodiola

    if you can afford it try upping the dose. I can get ashwagandha very cheap here so I sometimes dose 25 grams of it in a day and it produces a drug like effect. lol

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    What do you feel when you try the butea superba?

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    for me the one's I feel the most are butea superba, tribulus, ashwagandha, pine pollen powder, rhodiola

    if you can afford it try upping the dose. I can get ashwagandha very cheap here so I sometimes dose 25 grams of it in a day and it produces a drug like effect. lol

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    i've cited this before but increased heart rate, hornyness, aggression. it only lasts a few hours tho

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    Few remaining things to fix:
    Erection strength needs some improvement although not bad. (Nothing a little more herb can't fix).
    Refractory period still hours apart. Need to be within minutes.
    Semen volume and consistency need improvement for sure, but much improved since 5 years ago (back then it was very watery and low volume).
    Mood has improved immensely and during pro hormone cycle felt normal for a while. Need that mood to remain consistent.
    Muscle strength and density have had some noticeable improvements since end of pro hormone cycle. Still need some work here.

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    Update: The tongkat ali from Lost Empire seems to have done the job, with less side effects than the Source Naturals brand. Just slightly mellower. Happy with purchase. Took black ant extract this morning from Lost Empire. Soon after went for a run of about 1.5 miles with intermittent sprinting.
    I am ecstatic to report that energy levels felt like, dare I say, NORMAL? I haven't had a burst of stamina like that since I was NORMAL. It was incredible. Felt soooooo good.

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    Bizzbee's Trial with Androhard by MuscleGelz

    Quote Originally Posted by bizzbee View Post
    Few remaining things to fix:
    Erection strength needs some improvement although not bad. (Nothing a little more herb can't fix).
    Refractory period still hours apart. Need to be within minutes.
    Semen volume and consistency need improvement for sure, but much improved since 5 years ago (back then it was very watery and low volume).
    Mood has improved immensely and during pro hormone cycle felt normal for a while. Need that mood to remain consistent.
    Muscle strength and density have had some noticeable improvements since end of pro hormone cycle. Still need some work here.
    You'll get there. Congratulations on your improvements this far. You know what you need to do you just have to keep doing it.

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    Took Cistanche today from Lost Empire(1 teaspoon ~ 1 gram). Didn't do squat. Felt more heavy headed and dizzy as a result. These herbs are hit or miss. I might do a juice feast for a couple of weeks in order to clear everything from my system.

    Herbs with definite positive effects so far:

    Tongkat Ali
    Horny Goat Weed
    Black ant extract
    Mucuna prurient

    Herbs with no effect:
    Cistanche
    Pine Pollen (not sure)
    Lion's Mane

    Herbs To still try:
    stay tuned
    Last edited by bizzbee; 10-02-2017 at 11:41 AM.

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    Cd, I remember you took 4 cycle of R andro followed by herbs as PCT to recover 100% right?
    How much time does it mean?
    Cause from your old description of facts, it was looking more easy than what it seems for many others.

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    It was 4 cycles of PP androhard if I'm not mistaken and the PCT was sustain alpha and some other things (Toco). He cycled about 7-10 herbs (this is all from his posts on PH). The first real cycle of R-andro (my experience with it) was definitely helpful in some areas. Some of the herbs may not work for everyone. The key is to find enough herbs that are helpful and just rotate them. I might try royal jelly next. See what happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by biatch View Post
    Cd, I remember you took 4 cycle of R andro followed by herbs as PCT to recover 100% right?
    How much time does it mean?
    Cause from your old description of facts, it was looking more easy than what it seems for many others.
    Last edited by bizzbee; 10-02-2017 at 08:52 PM.

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