Delta-2 /Epistane Cycle Help/Critique

[campcoll88]

Hello swolesource,

I have been lurking for quite a while on various ph forums and boards and would just like to say what an excellent resource everyone here and at primordial has been in regards to anabolics, fitness, supplements, and everything in between. With that being said, I am currently having some trouble with my dosing schedule for my next cycle in Febuary. I am 24 and have run cycle of Androbulk, which I loved, that netted me eight pounds over six weeks, all of which was kept PCT (strength actually went up during PCT with little to no noticeable shutdown.)

I was planning on running this cycle for 8 weeks. It will be composed of leftovers from my last cycle, which include AMS 4-AD, Androenhance, Androbulk, Androgenetx Delta-2, and some Epistane my friend decided he didn’t want. It may seem excessive, but I only had to spend on support supplements, PCT and the Delta-2. I figure the Delta should act as a mild bulker as it is unmethylated Phera while the Epistane should harden everything up at the end of the cycle and help put on some additional mass. The 4-DHEA should assist with lethargy and mood issues while the 19-DHEA should help with the joint issues many seem to experience while on a dry compound such as Epi.

The current schedule looks something like this:

Delta 2 – 5/5/5/5/5/1/0/0
Epistane – 0/0/0/0/15/30/30/30
Androbulk – 0/0/3/3/3/3/3/3
4-AD - 2/2/2/2/2/2/2/2
Enhance - 1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1
CEL-11 Sterone - 0/0/1/2/2/2/2/2

PCT
Clomid – 50/50/25/25
Erase – 0/0/3/2/1
Anabeta Elite – 4/4/4/4
AI Sports PCT – 4/4/4/4
Toco-8 - 1/1/1/1
DAA – 3/3/3/3

I only have 56 4-AD tabs, 56 pumps of Androenhance, and 126 Androbulk gels. These are the max doses I can run for this length of time. I have considered dosing higher for a shorter period but am worried this could cause unwanted sides as from what I have read pyramiding can be a hormone rollercoaster.

I am unsure of the Epistane dosage. Should I just start it at 30 and run it at 30 the whole time? Or would this be a bad idea, since the Delta-2 would be run simultaneously in week 5.

I am also unsure if I should run the Androbulk at 2 for 8 weeks or 3 for 6 weeks, with the goal in mind being to minimize joint pain and discomfort.

Any changes, recommendations, thoughts on this cycle?

[pitboss]

Looks good to me but I'm not familiar with the Delta 2. Maybe the 4 ad is a bit low?

[campcoll88]

I upped the 4-AD to two a day and added in some 11-sterone for cortisol control. I think I may just start the epi at 30 but am still unsure.

Delta-2 is supposed to convert to un-methylated phera and is effective at dosages of 450-600 mg's daily. The active is called Delta-2-androst-17-one. This is according to thread on phforum. There on not many logs on it though

[pitboss]

New prohormone: Delta-2

Oh, I remember this coming out a year or 2 ago. Don't know enough to comment ... Hell, Ergo-Log doesn't know enough about the substance or even the possible sides. Good luck with it.

[BBG]

Androbulk – 0/0/3/3/3/3/3/3
4-AD - 2/2/2/2/2/2/2/2
Enhance - 1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1
CEL-11 Sterone - 0/0/1/2/2/2/2/2

These all work well together, so good choice there. I'd like to see the bulk run at full dose, but obviously nothing we can do about that now.

Epistane – 0/0/0/0/15/30/30/30

Do yourself a favor and run this at the very 30mg throughout.

Delta 2 – 5/5/5/5/5/1/0/0

No idea on Delta 2.

[markam]

I've used Delta and it's best use mo would be as a preworkout, and you could also take it post workout. It's very very mild but will give good pumps. I wouldn't bother with it again.

[Rulk]

I vaguely remember a log over at bodybuilding dungeon, I believe from Mike+40???? Pertaining to Delta-2. Seemed interesting at the time, but did not get a lot of attention. It sounds like it's gonna get lost almost in the proposed cocktail, so there is no way of knowing what it's doing. Hm...