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    A 1k Club Member Feedback Score 0 Cobalt's Avatar
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    I ran it at 2 ml a day for 6 weeks - I could have easily gotten away with less, but it was packing on the strength and muscle so fast that I had to resist not going higher.

    Stacked with AndroMASS v1, put on 20+ lbs and kept almost all of it.

    PCT was PP's TRS v1, but I added another SA bottle to extend it's use.
    If you can bench more than you can squat, you're doing it wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt View Post
    I ran it at 2 ml a day for 6 weeks - I could have easily gotten away with less, but it was packing on the strength and muscle so fast that I had to resist not going higher.

    Stacked with AndroMASS v1, put on 20+ lbs and kept almost all of it.

    PCT was PP's TRS v1, but I added another SA bottle to extend it's use.
    MAN I loved andromass v1. Shit packed on pounds... that cycle sounds amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBG View Post
    MAN I loved andromass v1. Shit packed on pounds... that cycle sounds amazing.
    It is the best PH cycle to date, and will probably remain that way.
    I remember shaving one morning and then putting the TZ on my neck/clavicle region. That burned like no tomorrow!
    If you can bench more than you can squat, you're doing it wrong!

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    Let me ask you guys this, aside from the dosages you've used it at, what are the times?

    I'm curious if the majority use it in the morning or a few hours before a workout etc. Does anyone know how long it stays active in the human system in general? I realize there's going to be variance depending on the person but a general average would be nice to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrow View Post
    Let me ask you guys this, aside from the dosages you've used it at, what are the times?

    I'm curious if the majority use it in the morning or a few hours before a workout etc. Does anyone know how long it stays active in the human system in general? I realize there's going to be variance depending on the person but a general average would be nice to know.
    I'm not 100% sure on how the topical absorption works in terms of time-release. IE, is it all absorbed after the lotion has dried, is there a thin film still absorbing overtime, does a larger dose mean more time-release, whereas a smaller dose is released instantly?

    I just do any topical once in the morning after soap/shower (or twice if it recommends twice).
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    I applied it when I got up (around 6-7am) and again 12 hours later.

    I just made more sense to evenly space it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pman42 View Post
    burly, what compound did you take for gyno post-cycle? SERM or other?
    x2 Really interested as I have a bit of gyno I fear could flare up.
    Last edited by pitboss; 12-01-2012 at 10:01 PM.

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    My experience: 3x

    1. 1.5ml/day, applied in the AM on neck, shoulders and upper back

    2. Sides:

    (a) slight acne, especially on the back of my head, just above the neck, where I'd get several massive eruptions every few days after about 2 weeks in; cleared up immediately upon stopping

    (b) BP - pushed AM BP up to 150/90 territory

    (c) NO gyno - unlike Tren LV ; but this is likely a function of my endo's having me on low dose letrozole once a week as part of my HRT

    (d) NO adverse libido effects; but this is probably affected by my TRT (100mg/day topical) and various natty ingredients in my supplement regimen

    (e) NONE of the drama of associated with Tren, just a quiet but dramatic surge of power

    3. Effects

    (a) Huge increases in capacity and tremendous strength gains, most of which stick around afterwards as long as I don't slack off

    (b) Can be a gainer, maintainer or a cutter/recomp depending on how much and what I eat and intensity of routine. Post cycle effect varies tremendously and is directly proportional to nature of diet and continued intensity of workouts. I've gained as much as 15 pounds of quality lean mass and kept it, lost it and gone very lean or watched it disappear and be replaced with fat depending.
    Last edited by Sperwer; 12-01-2012 at 09:53 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h2s View Post
    YMMV, but I have experienced absolutely zero sides besides acne. I had an acne breakout on my back and only one application of a topical medication took care of it.

    The other side effect I am having is with barely any change to diet I am staying very consistent in weight while leaning up quite well.
    Wht topical medication are you using? When I get on cycle I tend to break out in certain areas, and my wife has also been having some bad face acne lately and the dr prescribed her some antibiotics and other $$$ cream which she didn't get.

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    I've always wanted to pull the trigger on this stuff, but the 19nor effects and emotional sides scare me. I can't chance tanking my libido. I have a 35-year-old nymphomaniac girlfriend and we usually have sex about three times a day at her insistence (and I'm not complaining one damn bit!). If I couldn't perform, she'd be pissed and to me it just isn't worth it.

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