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    "DHT had greater effects on cortical bone(outer layer) and partially mitigated the suppressive effects of estrogen on bone growth and formation in the female skeleton."

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    "Cortical bone represents 80% of the skeletal mass and therefore supports most of the mechanical function."

    Estrogen seems to have inhibitory effect on cortical/appositional mass.
    Must keep E within healthy range consistently.

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    Revisited some old threads to confirm one recovery reported bone mass improvement in hands.

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    Seems like testosterone functions more on the inside of the bone.

    DHT operates more on the outer region of bone. Outer layer makes up near 80% of bone mass according to several sources.

    Excess estrogen will interfere with bone metabolism. Has an inhibitory effect on bone formation. Smaller skeletal mass overall.

    Therefore lack of DHT and/or excess estrogen will limit skeletal mass.

    Also, stress/inflammation will throw off parathyroid to produce more osteoclasts vs osteoblasts, thereby also inhibiting bone mass. Thyroid function also plays a role, from what I remember.

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    Man shoutout to you Hulk, you are Swole's official bone expert.

    You say DHT helps, have you ever cycled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk Smash View Post
    Seems like testosterone functions more on the inside of the bone.

    DHT operates more on the outer region of bone. Outer layer makes up near 80% of bone mass according to several sources.

    Excess estrogen will interfere with bone metabolism. Has an inhibitory effect on bone formation. Smaller skeletal mass overall.

    Therefore lack of DHT and/or excess estrogen will limit skeletal mass.

    Also, stress/inflammation will throw off parathyroid to produce more osteoclasts vs osteoblasts, thereby also inhibiting bone mass. Thyroid function also plays a role, from what I remember.
    Testosterone functions mostly on the inside of bone, therefore low T must be tackled or there will be bone fractures and breaks in the long term. Could lead to Osteoporosis.

    DHT will have more of an impact on mechanics such as balance and grip ability, also appearance.

    *Remember, optimal nutrition thru herbs and other methods is needed to remineralize the bones. Calcium, magnesium, boron, MK4, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw View Post
    Man shoutout to you Hulk, you are Swole's official bone expert.

    You say DHT helps, have you ever cycled?
    Haha, thanks man.
    I havent cycled yet BUT I will hopefully in the very near future. Balancing a few more things as much as possible, and adding sorghum to my diet first. I will cycle if I have no noticeable changes.

    The DHT should definitely rebuild bone mass, as long as parathyroid is functioning properly and Estrogen is at healthy level.

    I've read one recovery where moon face was gone, no mention of DHT.

    Another recovery where hand size apparently recovered, DHT was involved.

    The only thing I anticipate is the need to have a VERY consistent DHT input to get the desired effect. Question is how much DHT will be needed daily to maintain mass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk Smash View Post
    Haha, thanks man.
    I havent cycled yet BUT I will hopefully in the very near future. Balancing a few more things as much as possible, and adding sorghum to my diet first. I will cycle if I have no noticeable changes.

    The DHT should definitely rebuild bone mass, as long as parathyroid is functioning properly and Estrogen is at healthy level.

    I've read one recovery where moon face was gone, no mention of DHT.

    Another recovery where hand size apparently recovered, DHT was involved.

    The only thing I anticipate is the need to have a VERY consistent DHT input to get the desired effect. Question is how much DHT will be needed daily to maintain mass?
    CYCLE!
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    @Cdsnuts
    I WILL start cycles asap.
    Will DHT drop when I'm off-cycle?
    Is it possible to microdose off-cycle?

    Or will I develop tolerance or not feel well if I consistently microdose?
    I don't want to lose my gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk Smash View Post
    @Cdsnuts
    I WILL start cycles asap.
    Will DHT drop when I'm off-cycle?
    Is it possible to microdose off-cycle?

    Or will I develop tolerance or not feel well if I consistently microdose?
    I don't want to lose my gains.
    Decided to not microdose when off PH.
    I will consume sorghum instead and continue with the rest of protocol.

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