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    My Androhard musclegelz has finally arrived.

    Going to start on monday because I'm going to do a little fast this week as I binged on a few treats over xmas and want my body clean and ready

    Got a couple of bottles of Super R-Andro Rx on it's way so will be looking to do cycle that in spring. Hopefully only need to do 2-3 cycles because the stuff is quite pricey after paying customs charges

    Besides that energy has been stable, no longer need to take naps through the day. Mood is somewhat down, hopefully when I take my first cycle it will help with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alchemy View Post
    My Androhard musclegelz has finally arrived.

    Going to start on monday because I'm going to do a little fast this week as I binged on a few treats over xmas and want my body clean and ready

    Got a couple of bottles of Super R-Andro Rx on it's way so will be looking to do cycle that in spring. Hopefully only need to do 2-3 cycles because the stuff is quite pricey after paying customs charges

    Besides that energy has been stable, no longer need to take naps through the day. Mood is somewhat down, hopefully when I take my first cycle it will help with that.
    Today is the day!

    Have you ever cycled before?
    Total Male Optimization "People who say it can't be done shouldn't interrupt those that are doing it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    Today is the day!

    Have you ever cycled before?
    lol I couldn't wait, I actually started on friday so been on it for 4 days now and I'm very impressed.

    I've cycled forma stanzol before in the past which helped with shredding,libido but nothing much in terms of energy and mood that I already feeling with this.

    On friday after my first pump I felt so much stronger in the gym, really felt aggressive and powerful, destroyed legs workout without feeling wiped out afterwards

    Then in the afternoon I had so much energy and focus it was unfuckingbelievable as if I just unlocked some cheat code for infinite energy and drive. Not to mention finally feeling like a light had been turned on in my brain and could actually think very clearly. Not euphoric but alert

    My mood has seemed to even out, I don't feel so downbeat, I finding myself smiling and feeling so much more relaxed, confident, even cocky and people are smiling at me from every angle these last few days it's weird

    As far as libido is concerned, I'm getting a few random boners here and there during the day and waking up everyday with morning wood.

    I'm looking in the mirror and starting to look like a genetic freak already from the pumps these are giving

    I'm just very happy with the mental effects so far and very happy I actually have some motivation and drive to push forward.

    I'm still get plagued with worry but I have to continue marching forward regardless, it's either fight or stagnation from here.

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    Very glad to hear you are responding so well to it! What dosage did you start out at? Have you had any trouble sleeping? Have you noticed it increase your anxiety at all?

    I am very curious how you will respond to this as it seems you had similar brain fog issues to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slader1 View Post
    Very glad to hear you are responding so well to it! What dosage did you start out at? Have you had any trouble sleeping? Have you noticed it increase your anxiety at all?

    I am very curious how you will respond to this as it seems you had similar brain fog issues to me.
    I'm doing 4 pumps in the morning and 4 pumps in the afternoon. I think it works out 400mg but it's not the full dose and I'm responding well. Might increase later to 600

    Not had any trouble sleeping but wake up super early like 3am and don't go back to sleep but still don't get fatigued during the day

    So I'm operating at 5 hours sleep a day which I don't think is good but that's what my body is fine with at the min and I'm not even needing to drink coffee.

    Brain fog is improving by the day, the head pressure brick wall feeling is fading away and can think and converse very clearly. No longer do I have to focus really hard on what people are saying, i can follow conversations pretty effortlessly and come back quickly with a response

    I'm not feeling any anxiety at the moment, it's never been really bad for me to be honest, but been hesitant to socialises with friends because of low mood and declined cognitive ability where it my sentences would get broken up and sound like a retard.

    If my libido and sensitivity returned in full, I'd say I was 95% recovered since I only experience libido when with a woman . Nevertheless but im very thankful for the improvements so far.

    Oh yeah did you get that book?

    I forgot to mention I've also been doubling up on the deep belly breathing and meditation, that has also been helping great
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    Wow so you started out at 4 pumps in the morning and 4 at night? When I started at just 2 pumps I felt it kick my ass. I had a lot of trouble sleeping on it, I think it made my cortisol really high. That is probably why you are able to go with only 5 hours of sleep, because your cortisol is elevated. It's good that you aren't needing any coffee. Where you drinking much to begin with? I think "ultramind" doctor is against coffee, but I havent come across that part yet.

    That's so awesome the brain pressure is fading away! It is still such a problem for me. It is like all the nerves and feelings in my body and mind are just so constrained and restricted. I have to muster every ounce of energy to focus and it's still not enough to read or think clearly. It's like being retarded but also super uincomfortable and strange feeling for me. I hate it!

    So your libido and sensitivity are 95% returned? Or not yet?

    I did get the book and have read the first couple chapters. It is pretty itneresting how screwed up this guy was from the bad air in china and other things. I wonder if his approach will work as well for pfs, though.

    I definitely need to start deep breathing and meditating. I just can't seem to find the willpower. Maybe cold showers will help with that!

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    @slader1 try yoga. It's way easier to stick to for the start. You will get quite some deep breathing in there and destress your body physically aswell. 
    I still don't get why you don't fast xd start the protocol from scratch man it's awful seeing you still shitty for so long

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    Quote Originally Posted by slader1 View Post
    Wow so you started out at 4 pumps in the morning and 4 at night? When I started at just 2 pumps I felt it kick my ass. I had a lot of trouble sleeping on it, I think it made my cortisol really high. That is probably why you are able to go with only 5 hours of sleep, because your cortisol is elevated. It's good that you aren't needing any coffee. Where you drinking much to begin with? I think "ultramind" doctor is against coffee, but I havent come across that part yet.

    That's so awesome the brain pressure is fading away! It is still such a problem for me. It is like all the nerves and feelings in my body and mind are just so constrained and restricted. I have to muster every ounce of energy to focus and it's still not enough to read or think clearly. It's like being retarded but also super uincomfortable and strange feeling for me. I hate it!

    So your libido and sensitivity are 95% returned? Or not yet?

    I did get the book and have read the first couple chapters. It is pretty it ineresting how screwed up this guy was from the bad air in china and other things. I wonder if his approach will work as well for pfs, though.

    I definitely need to start deep breathing and meditating. I just can't seem to find the willpower. Maybe cold showers will help with that!
    Yeah 4 pumps morning and afternoon. I think I will stay on this them increase to full 6 pump dosage after 2 weeks.

    I think the doctor is against coffee from what I remember reading the book, but I just eliminate it because my body now doesn't need it. If it does need it, I won't hesitate to have a cup

    I was probably drinking 1-2 cups of coffee a day, a nootropic type. Normal coffee gets me too hyped up and dehydrates my body so I don't like taking it


    The head pressure has definitely improved, no more foggy thinking that's for sure., the only thing missing is libido.

    Like I said if that came back along with sensitivity then I'd consider myself 95% recovered but it is confined to sexual activity only at this point.

    Confidence is definitely increasing, I feel like an absolute end game boss in the gym. Anxiety would often crop up in public but now I feel powerful and have presence again

    The doctors approach is similar to the protocol, besides the extensive list of multivitamin supplements on his list and shoddy diet plan, which I don't think are needed for recovery so long as you are eating good healthy unprocessed foods and staying away from grains and shit

    Like I take a multiple vitamin B complex and probiotics/preprobiotics that's recommended from the book list. Besides that I don't see the point of mixing protocols. The body just needs to be given the right nourishment, rest and mind needs work through relaxation/yoga/meditation

    I just think it's a great read to give another perspective and another case of someone suffering from similar symptoms who recovered. It always helps as a reference when believing/thinking recovery isn't possible not to mention the numerous cases he's treated and good roadmap for gut issues which is what mostly causes the brain fog due to triggering foods causing inflammation

    Back 3 months ago when I was eating whatever the hell I wanted, I could barely think and talk. After fasting, clean diet, herbs and now doing an andro run, I think like a new person and having deep intellectual conversations with people without much trouble finding and articulating my speech

    In your case as Bankai stressed, i'd jump into a fast and decide a protocol to follow and stick to it and get back in the mindset that recovery/healing is possible because imho that's your biggest hurdle right now. Dipping your toes in too many different approaches and trying to sync them all because you're unsure if one is better than the other.

    There are many ways to heal the body, you just got to choose which way you want to go and stick with it.

    I love this protocol because it's so simple and relatively easy to follow, feels natural and don't have to jump through hundreds of tests to carry it out.

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    What book alchemy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helpisontheway View Post
    What book alchemy?
    Ultra mind solution by Mark Hyman. The guy suffered mercury poisoning and preaches a similar mythology to the protocol , such as deep breathing to simulate the vague nerve, cutting out gluten, chelating heavy metals, repairing the gut etc

    A lot of stuff that's advised I wouldn't recommend doing/taking but it's a pretty inspiring read when you read how bad he was how and how many patients he's helped
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