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    Alchemical Recovery out of hell of PSSD after taking similar 5ar pharma drug

    Hi guys, great to be part of the group. I've come here to journey my recovery as I am to begin the protocol and to be honest I need some support of some kind in this lonely journey as there is no one who can understand what we're going through and I do not wish to burden anyone with this kind of ordeal irl as I do not want people to feel sorry for me but merely to understand but it's easier to share on a forum with many others going through the same thing.

    A bit of back story, Went through a breakdown leading to a psychotic episode back when in early twenties (now early 30's) and took pharmaceutical drug which is a 5h2a inhibitator which I didn't have a clue at the time and a week later shut down everything. it was a hellish experience and knew something was wrong, very similar to the pfs shutdown. Numb genitals, crazy head pressure, anhedonia. It was like a switch just turned off in my body and lost basically everything, job gf and health. I immediately stopped taking it didn't taper, and don't think it would have made a difference, as the damage was already done. The docs lied and said the sides would subside, but I never had any faith in them so never believed them. I only took the pills as I taken to the psyche ward as emergency and so had little choice but to take them

    I still have pstd from the whole experience and the mental torture,the regret and missed years just existing still haunts me to this day. I managed to reach a baseline after the initial crashto bring some balance into my state. This was dome through strengthening my adrenals as I found out had adrenal fatigue, which improved my energy as before that I was more or less bed ridden with horrible head pressure where my mind felt like it was frozen. Still it didn't help the sexual and mental sides that much.. many pssd sufferes are going through similar level of symptoms and suffering as pfs's. They also have a forum dedicated to finding a cure very much similar to propeciahelp, where the community is hellbent on convincing themselves that it is permanent with admins dismissing anyone who recovers natually. Meanwhile they are encouraged to experiment with different theories and drugs to reverse the the effects of dopamine antagonistic pharmaceutical drugs instead of going through a holistic approach.


    It's nearly been a decade and in between self medicating through chasing sex, porn, smoking and pretending that I'm ok, I've been flirting with different protocols, doing a lot of research in the field of fasting, the gut, regeneration of cells, neuroplasticity but never sticking to one mode of approach as much of the information was scattered and my mind would put me in doubt even though some would have an effect like abstaining from sugar, nofap etc.

    I covered books such as ultra mind, the tao of health, sex and longevity and the chinese book of health and healing and they all match up to what is outlined in CD's protocol minus the Qigong which I'm sure can be incorporated without harm. The herbs half of them already have from learning about them through books, cold showers already do from time to time but will make it everyday. Already have chlorine shower filter and don't ever use any deodorants with aluminum or unnatural creams. Nofap already been doing on and off but since I had ocd even before this wholeordeal it's been difficult to stop obsessing about sex even with the dysfunction.

    I already have a background in meditation and breathing, however when everything switched off I don't seem to reap the benefits so fast as if you would if your functions were in order. I even done 10 day retreat meditating 10 hours a day and didn't do much of a transformative effect mainly because the food were vegetarian grains which ruined my stomach the whole time I was there. So sadly I didn't maintain my practice and ditched being strict with my diet as the candida made me crave lots of junk carbs.

    I've seen naturopaths, muscle biofeedback therapists and nutritionists and all told me different things which were resulting in the issue. First adrenal fatigue, candida, inflammation leaking gut and that much is all true. I react badly to gluten and stupidly because I didn't have that much belief in any protocol that would send me back to my old self, I didn't take too much heed and abandoned the candida style diet.

    So when I stumbled upon totatmaleoptimisation, i realised that without doubt that it isn't going to be a shot in the dark and now is the time for no hearted efforts but to go full in and incorporate everything outlined in the protocol. It's great that is all laid out in no uncertain terms, as I am all or nothing and when things are scattered from different people telling you hear and there that this worked, this didn't it gets a bit confusing and disheartening, especially when they do not suffer with identical symptoms

    Right now I'm on day 5 on juice fast. I done juice and water fast in the past, but then would slowly eat bad foods that needed to be avoided at all costs, and would lose the benefits quickly. So will go on paleo without much difficulty and its great to know I don't need to go raw as have tried before but couldn't give up the meat for too long.

    Apologies for the long post, but I think it's important to give some background, so you understand where I'm coming from and so future pssd suffers can come here comfortably and see that it can work for them also

    My symptoms currently.
    Numb genitals Big problem but a lot more remeasured hearing others had similar and fully recovered all sensation
    Non existent libido unless I no fap for a few weeks or take forma stanzol, or after a gym session next day in morning some libido then fades
    Bad short term memory
    Weak broken voice with stutter
    Brain fog
    Disconnected perception and feeling from environment
    Mental rumination (this is big problem as has made me give up in the past)

    Things that are ok but not great
    Energy Levels
    Can workout and build muscle
    Can laugh and make witty jokes which couldn't do when first crashed but still mind is slow retaining new information
    Occasional morning and nocturnal wood

    I have a couple of questions regarding the protocol

    1)If later on I decide to take the prohomornes, considering I have no genetic disposition to hair loss, would hair shedding still occur?

    2]And would doing a 5 day juice fast followed by 3 days water fast be decent enough before refeeding? The reason for this is that currently feel weak and have some business to take care and can't be out of action for 2 weeks

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    haven't really lost any hair on 5th week of prohormones. makes me even more pissed because I got PFS and didn't probably have mpb lmao.
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    I didn’t lose hair on pro hormones either...now nolvadex which i tried before getting on the regimen last year, fuck me, my hair thinned out summit else...powerful anti-estrogen!

    Your in the best place here mate...welcome!

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    Oh and with regards to fasting...the more comprehensive fast you adopt and run, the better response youll get from it! Its about how determined you are mate.

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    I ran a two week juice fast and might even do another soon

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    That and combined with gluten free/paleo my shitting is now great and the rest...mental power, alertness...get on with the regimen

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    Thanks for the response guys. I will see how I go when a few months into the diet to see if I need to take the prohormones, just wary of nasty sides.

    But when I've run forma stanzol the most I got was a bit of acne but it was improving me. Nevertheless will stick with the protocol and not deviate from tried and tested methods.

    Will see how I feel in the next two days to see if I can do another week. Right now I'm just excited to get back to eating solids, I love my food.

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    Decided I'm just going to trudge through the 2 weeks. Always done only 1 week fast before in the past so time to push through.

    Will be interesting to see how I feel may after. As the last juice fast I did managed to help ed and since that time I can have sex respectedly and maintain erection throughout.

    Tomorrow will sauna to help with the symptoms. Been looking at my Paleo recipe book that I had for a while but never used. So excited to try the recipes and start eating.

    Last night I dreamt that I broke my fast by eating cake while asking myself wtf am I doing lol. Happened twice in two different dreams but was relieved when I woke up and know I'm still fasting.

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    ya during fasting I got tons of dreams about junk food lol. It's the hardest part of the protocol imo.

    second hardest is cold showers when it's like -32 already outside in toronto lmao. that parts easy in the summer tho
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    Yeah it's the heart of winter here in the uk so jumping in the cold shower isn't easy. But I try win Hoff breathing to help tolerate the cold water which helps.

    Feeling a lot more positive today since been just fasting on water my head is a lot more clearer. The last few days beginning the juice fast have felt real terrible mentally feeling real bad emotions.

    Hopefully that's the worst of the fast behind me but regardless will see it out to the weekend at the very least which will be 11 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alchemy View Post
    Yeah it's the heart of winter here in the uk so jumping in the cold shower isn't easy. But I try win Hoff breathing to help tolerate the cold water which helps.

    Feeling a lot more positive today since been just fasting on water my head is a lot more clearer. The last few days beginning the juice fast have felt real terrible mentally feeling real bad emotions.

    Hopefully that's the worst of the fast behind me but regardless will see it out to the weekend at the very least which will be 11 days.
    People don't realize how much they use food as entertainment. Many people use it as a crutch to make them feel better when they're feeling bad. If you think you're hungry, just ask yourself, would I eat an apple right now....if you answered no, you're not really hungry, you're just bored. If you're hungry, you'll eat ANYTHING.

    When you're fasting, and you start to feel negative emotions, you have nothing to squash it down with. This is good, and bad. It's good in the fact that you can sit with the emotion, and process it out, instead of forcing it back down and in. The bad thing is, well, you have to experience the negative emotion. This may last a few moments, a few hours, or all damn day. How ever long it lasts, just be present with it. Don't judge it. You're better off experiencing it and letting it be processed then stuffing it back down inside and having to process it at another time. This is what most people have trouble with when fasting.

    It will continue to get better the longer you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    People don't realize how much they use food as entertainment. Many people use it as a crunch to make them feel better when they're feeling bad. If you think you're hungry, just ask yourself, would I eat an apple right now....if you answered no, you're not really hungry, you're just bored. If you're hungry, you'll eat ANYTHING.

    When you're fasting, and you start to feel negative emotions, you have nothing to squash it down with. This is good, and bad. It's good in the fact that you can sit with the emotion, and process it out, instead of forcing it back down and in. The bad thing is, well, you have to experience the negative emotion. This may last a few moments, a few hours, or all damn day. How ever long it lasts, just be present with it. Don't judge it. You're better off experiencing it and letting it be processed then stuffing it back down inside and having to process it at another time. This is what most people have trouble with when fasting.

    It will continue to get better the longer you go.
    I agree as a society in general we have a food addiction or dependency. which is why fasts are good because it helps break that cycle and resets the palate so you're not craving junk.

    I became addicted to food to feel good and to numb the discomfort. Not to mention yeast/candidw overgrowth in the gut causes cravings towards sugar and starches.

    Before I got sick I was a health freak and could easily abstain from junk. Now have to put in a concerted effort to stay on the straight and narrow in all areas of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alchemy View Post
    I agree as a society in general we have a food addiction or dependency. which is why fasts are good because it helps break that cycle and resets the palate so you're not craving junk.

    I became addicted to food to feel good and to numb the discomfort. Not to mention yeast/candidw overgrowth in the gut causes cravings towards sugar and starches.

    Before I got sick I was a health freak and could easily abstain from junk. Now have to put in a concerted effort to stay on the straight and narrow in all areas of life.
    That being said, the more you stay on the straight and narrow, the easier it gets...
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