This crashing period...

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hmm, funny you talk of flu-like symptons, they were very apparent when I was on saw palmetto, but thinking about it, I think it was more of an allergic reaction I was having to the herb, rather than a crash. I remember my throat being tight with a sniffly nose. I had aches in my nuts and brain fog but never crashed after sp.

This product guys use and rave about hcgenerate contains stinging nettle and fenugreek extract (DHT blockers). Now the reviews I read about this are fantastic. Its sported as the best herbal test boosting blend on the planet. Ive even trawled through all the reviews left on amazon for it and even the 1 star reviews, nobody mentions anything horrific, i.e hormonal crashes. This is well over 200 reviews. Yet I seemingly crash after fenugreek for 10 days, the whole things quite fucking bizarre tbh. I still wonder if im just suppressed after the massive spike in estrogen I had from the fenugreek which was very apparent. Im on the regiment regardless but I do wonder...

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hmm, funny you talk of flu-like symptons, they were very apparent when I was on saw palmetto, but thinking about it, I think it was more of an allergic reaction I was having to the herb, rather than a crash. I remember my throat being tight with a sniffly nose. I had aches in my nuts and brain fog but never crashed after sp.

This product guys use and rave about hcgenerate contains stinging nettle and fenugreek extract (DHT blockers). Now the reviews I read about this are fantastic. Its sported as the best herbal test boosting blend on the planet. Ive even trawled through all the reviews left on amazon for it and even the 1 star reviews, nobody mentions anything horrific, i.e hormonal crashes. This is well over 200 reviews. Yet I seemingly crash after fenugreek for 10 days, the whole things quite fucking bizarre tbh. I still wonder if im just suppressed after the massive spike in estrogen I had from the fenugreek which was very apparent. Im on the regiment regardless but I do wonder...

This is was my case with propecia, stopped it due to sides, some sort of flue went on for a month where sides started getting worse the phycological factor (oh god i am doomed) of that time didn't help as well. I can't say i had a crash crash, but a steady decline.

I'm 6 months on the protocol and even though i can't say i'm near close to my "normal" pre fin state, mentally i am returning back to the guy i was, bacopa helps alot too. When i started feeling mental clarity i noticed that my temperature was elevated for a couple of days. The mental clarity is still here, my temparature went back to it's normal state. It seems my organism reacts on something good or bad as some sort of warning, i just didn't pay attention at it in the past.

I too believe i have high estrogen as well, due to the new found gyno and the fact that i have accumulated fat around my waist. I believe we have to keep on going, our system is trying to balance it out.

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This is was my case with propecia, stopped it due to sides, some sort of flue went on for a month where sides started getting worse the phycological factor (oh god i am doomed) of that time didn't help as well. I can't say i had a crash crash, but a steady decline.

I'm 6 months on the protocol and even though i can't say i'm near close to my "normal" pre fin state, mentally i am returning back to the guy i was, bacopa helps alot too. When i started feeling mental clarity i noticed that my temperature was elevated for a couple of days. The mental clarity is still here, my temparature went back to it's normal state. It seems my organism reacts on something good or bad as some sort of warning, i just didn't pay attention at it in the past.

I too believe i have high estrogen as well, due to the new found gyno and the fact that i have accumulated fat around my waist. I believe we have to keep on going, our system is trying to balance it out.

I found some good ways to naturally control estrogen are: 1) with cruciferous veggies (i.e. cauliflower, broccoli and brussel sprouts). I eat a lot of riced cauliflower (in soup or with meat etc. on top) at night and in morning (sautéed with some onion in coconut oil as a hash). This helps reduce aromatization. Make sure you cook them very well to reduce negative effect on the thyroid and to ease digestion. 2) I also eat a good sized raw skin on carrot every day. There is a good amount of undigestible fiber in it that attaches to estrogen and flushes it out of the gut to minimize reuptake. There are a number of other things that are supposed to help (e.g. celery, red grapes, white mushrooms, etc.), but I have found these two the most effective to address estrogen symptoms when I get them (e.g. breast swelling & pain, water retention around waist, etc.) They are especially helpful as the testes start kicking in and producing T. I don't do pro-hormones, but may help on cycle for guys who are prone to aromatization.