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    Logen's Progress thread

    Hi Folks.

    I'd like to keep an actual thread dedicated to recovery in-which I can post updates, questions, and just document my path using the protocol.

    I am 32 years old and have been on propecia for about 1.5 years. I requested it be prescribed to me after reading numerous people's casual support and approval of it as a harmless pill. I requested my doctor prescribe it to me with no resistance.

    Over the course of those 1.5 years my libido slowly diminished. I recall it being great exactly 1 year ago with an ex GF, today it's not so great.

    I decided to quit propecia about 3 weeks ago after finally starting to put things together about my energy levels, mood, libido, and general vitality. I was living a healthy life, stopped jerking off to porn, and kept fairly active, yet my libido and energy levels were very sub par. I began reading the propecia threads on reddit and quickly started finding stories that scared the fucking shit out of me. One of those posts was by Coppersocks, who I then reached out to.

    CopperSocks very graciously answered all my questions, and referred me to CDsNuts forum and protocol.

    I began the protocol this past sunday. I am now on day 3 of the juice cleans, and have been taking daily cold showers. I have purchased The Paleo Cure and plan on starting a paleo diet that is best suited for me and my digestive health. I have a membership to Equinox here in NYC and go every other day. My Amazon cart is stocked with 14 of the herbs that the protocol lays out. The cost is about $350 but they should last me fairly long. I meditate daily and a meditation center here in NYC.

    I have been free from propecia for 6 days now. and have been on a juice cleans for 3 of them. My libido has been up and down. 2 days ago it was fairly high. High enough for me to easily wank off and orgasm within a couple on minutes, today it is low, i can barely hold an erection even with internet porn, and my energy is low, voice is weak, and I have an overall "down" and "sad" feeling (Note: no anxiety at all, just general sadness). I spoke to some cute girls today and could barely flirt with them. It sucks. but it's hard to say if it's the propecia withdrawal or the 3rd day on the juice cleans.

    Luckily life has imbued me with above average willpower, so I am optimistic about my journey. I will keep this thread updated as I move forward. thanks for reading.
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    Logen, Per my response to your previous post, if I were you I would: 1) Follow the protocol purely for the purposes of improving your masculine health (all men should do this IMO). 2) Other than that, just go about your life like you were before you ever heard about Finasteride & PFS. It is as simple as that. Stop thinking about it, stop looking for symptoms, stop checking to see if you can still get a hard on, stay away from forums (including even this one for now), stop Googling PFS, etc.. Most guy's sides fade after a few weeks. You are much, much more likely to be fine than not. Worrying about it can only serve to turn the scales in the other direction. If you follow that advice, this can likely be a very short thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damn View Post
    Logen, Per my response to your previous post, if I were you I would: 1) Follow the protocol purely for the purposes of improving your masculine health (all men should do this IMO). 2) Other than that, just go about your life like you were before you ever heard about Finasteride & PFS. It is as simple as that. Stop thinking about it, stop looking for symptoms, stop checking to see if you can still get a hard on, stay away from forums (including even this one for now), stop Googling PFS, etc.. Most guy's sides fade after a few weeks. You are much, much more likely to be fine than not. Worrying about it can only serve to turn the scales in the other direction. If you follow that advice, this can likely be a very short thread.
    Good advice here.

    Even if you thought you were fine before, or living healthfully, there are still things you can learn from this. Even if it's something as simple as removing xenoestrogens from your life. Little things like this will go a long way in keeping your masculinity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    Good advice here.

    Even if you thought you were fine before, or living healthfully, there are still things you can learn from this. Even if it's something as simple as removing xenoestrogens from your life. Little things like this will go a long way in keeping your masculinity.
    The xenoestrogen thing on the protocol was the only thing I was hesitant about. Which means it's the thing I should put the most effort into doing. Sometime by the end of this week i'll swap out my household stuff with pure items. I've been using old spice deodorant literally every single day since I was 14. Absorbing that into your body daily cannot be good for you.

    Thanks for the replies.

    I am on day 4 of the juice fast. Today I felt AMAZING. Happy, a lot of energy, very social, present, engaged in a conversation. this must be the juice cleans doing its thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logen99999 View Post
    The xenoestrogen thing on the protocol was the only thing I was hesitant about. Which means it's the thing I should put the most effort into doing. Sometime by the end of this week i'll swap out my household stuff with pure items. I've been using old spice deodorant literally every single day since I was 14. Absorbing that into your body daily cannot be good for you.

    Thanks for the replies.

    I am on day 4 of the juice fast. Today I felt AMAZING. Happy, a lot of energy, very social, present, engaged in a conversation. this must be the juice cleans doing its thing.
    The most hesitant? Why is that? It's the easiest thing on the list.

    And you're correct. ANY personal care product that you slather all over your skin that is filled with industrial chemicals is a no go. I don't know about you, but once I learned this, intuitively I knew it was something that I had to do....immediately It just made sense. Can you imagine the toxic load that builds over your lifetime from using this stuff daily? Not to mention with deodorant, you put it in the most sensitive spot of your body so that it's taken right into the lymph nodes.

    Concerning the juice feast...yes, this is the juice feast doing what it's supposed to do. If you think you feel good now....just wait until you start working out and rotating herbs. You're in for a treat.
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    CD, Indeed. i'm looking forward to replacing the deodorant, soap, and hair products asap, then move to the cleaning products.

    So this morning, after being off fin for about 6 days, I combed out a good clump of hair. In about a month or two I will go for a buzz cut, since long hair doesn't look good thinning. That's gona take some getting sued to, but in the long run, it will make me a stronger person, and it's the only sustainable solution.

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    Day 5 of juice cleans, I feel very good. a bit light headed sometimes, when looking at my computer screen at work. But overall very focused, present, and happy.

    The more I research juice cleansing, the more I see people recommending enemas. Has anyone here every incorporated an enema into the cleans? I have reservations about sticking things up there, but hey, if it makes me feel better than i'm willing to try.

    One thing that makes the juice cleans difficult is how it effects your social life. I had to turn down my friends request to hang out, drink beer, and eat this weekend, and now I just watch as my friends eat at the restaurant during lunch at the office.

    I've also been watching food videos on youtube, food eating competition videos, food reviews videos, usually about pizza or fried chicken or ramen, etc etc that shit isnt making this easier and I should stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logen99999 View Post
    Day 5 of juice cleans, I feel very good. a bit light headed sometimes, when looking at my computer screen at work. But overall very focused, present, and happy.

    The more I research juice cleansing, the more I see people recommending enemas. Has anyone here every incorporated an enema into the cleans? I have reservations about sticking things up there, but hey, if it makes me feel better than i'm willing to try.

    One thing that makes the juice cleans difficult is how it effects your social life. I had to turn down my friends request to hang out, drink beer, and eat this weekend, and now I just watch as my friends eat at the restaurant during lunch at the office.
    When you're doing a juice Feast you can do a water only enema every 3 or 4 days. It's not as bad as it may seem. If you're doing A Feast for two weeks you should shoot to do three maybe four enimas tops.

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    Day 6 of the juice cleans. I feel pretty low energy today, not very focused or motivated to do anything. I am supplementing with a few small pills of spirulina and cholera. If this low energy persists into tomorrow I will end the fast at day 8. If I feel better I will push it to 10 days.

    Sleep has improved dramatically. I wake up feelling really nicely rested. I felt this when I did intermittent fasting. going to bed without your digestive system working provides for much better sleep. I am also now noticeably leaner from the fast. I attribute that to mostly losing water weight. Gut feels great and stomach is very flat.

    My skin looks cleaner from the cold showers. I will begin body brushing this weekend.

    And now the bad news, my hair has started shedding around the crown from not taking the fin. I have that fuzzy feeling in my crown that I assume are the androgen receptor getting DHT again. I brushed out a few good clumps of hair this morning. Looks like i'll have to be getting that buzz cut sooner than I thought.
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    you're not supposed to be brimming with energy on a juice feast. The longer you can go the better.

    You could also be losing hair because of lack of protein because of the juice feast.
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