Recovery from Dutasteride Journey

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did you have high estrone levels when you crashed?

i have high T, high estrone, high prolactin

how the fk do i even correct the estrone out of range?

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Are you blocking blue light at night? That shit works. Wake up with the sun and put blockers on at night.

My sleep is next level doing this consistently right now. I'm dreaming for the first time in years too.

I do almost everything you can imagine. I use blue blockers 1-2 hours before bed. I use pink noise. noise cancellation headphones. black out curtains. eye mask lol. don't eat anything 3 hours before bed.

only thing I fuck up on is I have a late sleep schedule because of my lifestyle. 3am-12pm ideally is my sleep window

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I do almost everything you can imagine. I use blue blockers 1-2 hours before bed. I use pink noise. noise cancellation headphones. black out curtains. eye mask lol. don't eat anything 3 hours before bed.

only thing I fuck up on is I have a late sleep schedule because of my lifestyle. 3am-12pm ideally is my sleep window

Is that just on weekends? That's a pretty major thing that might kinda be undoing everything else you listed above that lol.

That used to be my schedule, and I had chronic sleep problems. Now everything is so dialed in for me I wake up naturally at first light in the mornings, and go watch the sunrise every day.

Only other problems that I've ever had otherwise waking up are liquids before bed and getting super aggressive with intermittent fasting & it giving me cortisol spikes during the night, and waking up with palpitations.

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Is that just on weekends? That's a pretty major thing that might kinda be undoing everything else you listed above that lol.

That used to be my schedule, and I had chronic sleep problems. Now everything is so dialed in for me I wake up naturally at first light in the mornings, and go watch the sunrise every day.

Only other problems that I've ever had otherwise waking up are liquids before bed and getting super aggressive with intermittent fasting & it giving me cortisol spikes during the night, and waking up with palpitations.

it's every day. I've tested doing it earlier and I don't notice a difference. I live in Canada we barely get sun here anyways. Only thing is if my neighbors are making a ruckace. redicolous because I live in a detatched house but they have kids who think it's cool to play basketball on our mutual driveway at 730am and they don't really care that it pisses me off lol

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it's every day. I've tested doing it earlier and I don't notice a difference. I live in Canada we barely get sun here anyways. Only thing is if my neighbors are making a ruckace. redicolous because I live in a detatched house but they have kids who think it's cool to play basketball on our mutual driveway at 730am and they don't really care that it pisses me off lol

Earplugs?

Light is the driver of circadian biology, and its nearly impossible to have sleep problems if you are living by mother nature's clock.

Before humans invented artificial lights sleep problems weren't really a thing.

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Earplugs?

Light is the driver of circadian biology, and its nearly impossible to have sleep problems if you are living by mother nature's clock.

Before humans invented artificial lights sleep problems weren't really a thing.

One thing that fascinated me about sleep habits before the invention of electric light was the practice of second sleep. Before lights people would usually fall asleep soon after the sun went down. They would sleep for four hours or so, wake up, eat, have sex, read and generally be up for an hour, sometimes two, then they would go into "second sleep" which is where they slept another four hours until the sun came up. Apparently this whole get an eight or nine hours of sleep in one shot is relatively new, in evolutionary terms, and man made. Who knew!

Some people wake up in the middle of the night. It's completely natural. But because of what's been drilled into our heads, we think there is something wrong, thus we start the mental gymnastics and drive our-self nuts. For the healthy people that have this habit, if they were to just relax, not stress out, they would end up falling back asleep in no time.

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One thing that fascinated me about sleep habits before the invention of electric light was the practice of second sleep. Before lights people would usually fall asleep soon after the sun went down. They would sleep for four hours or so, wake up, eat, have sex, read and generally be up for an hour, sometimes two, then they would go into "second sleep" which is where they slept another four hours until the sun came up. Apparently this whole get an eight or nine hours of sleep in one shot is relatively new, in evolutionary terms, and man made. Who knew!

Some people wake up in the middle of the night. It's completely natural. But because of what's been drilled into our heads, we think there is something wrong, thus we start the mental gymnastics and drive our-self nuts. For the healthy people that have this habit, if they were to just relax, not stress out, they would end up falling back asleep in no time.

I've heard about this! thats so interesting. The only real insomnia I will have nowadays comes maybe once per month where I wake up and my mind runs wild with ideas and epiphanies for an hour or two.

Might be related to what you are describing. Its usually a beautiful headspace. Some of the clearest thinking I do outside meditation.

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I've heard about this! thats so interesting. The only real insomnia I will have nowadays comes maybe once per month where I wake up and my mind runs wild with ideas and epiphanies for an hour or two.

Might be related to what you are describing. Its usually a beautiful headspace. Some of the clearest thinking I do outside meditation.

That's exactly it. There is an actual name for it but I can't recall it right now. It's like our built in meditation for the brain, at night, when it's quiet. Brilliant!

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Earplugs?

Light is the driver of circadian biology, and its nearly impossible to have sleep problems if you are living by mother nature's clock.

Before humans invented artificial lights sleep problems weren't really a thing.

What are you using for blue blocking? Glasses?

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What are you using for blue blocking? Glasses?

These early eavning/out in public:

Amazon.com: Blue Light Blocking Glasses By Bleu -FDA Registered Computer Eyewear Personal Care

These at home later evening:

DEWALT DW0714 Laser Enhancement Glasses - Safety Glasses - Amazon.com

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These early eavning/out in public:

Amazon.com: Blue Light Blocking Glasses By Bleu -FDA Registered Computer Eyewear Personal Care

These at home later evening:

DEWALT DW0714 Laser Enhancement Glasses - Safety Glasses - Amazon.com

hell yeah thanks for these