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    SARMS questions answered here.

    I thought I would start this thread for anyone with questions directly related to SARMS. S-4 and Ostarine are the two currently available through legal loopholes. Feel free to ask any questions about how and why to use them, and what dosage/cycle scheme might be most beneficial.

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    Let's say your are running something light such as 11-KT or Epiandrosterone. Would it make sence to stack either or both with ostarine, or would there be some kind of competition between them?

    Does Ostarine have thermogenic properties? Could have sworn I read this once.

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    Grape Ape, I think there would be sufficient reason to stack them. Neither 11-kt or epiandrosterone are going to cause much suppression (so stacking a SARM is smart as the main reason to use a SARM is that it also does not cause shutdown), and stacking ostarine with epiandrosterone will help negate any estrogen sides from ostarine.
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    There's no "competition" between SARMs and the compounds you mentioned. In fact, I've often recommended stacking SARMS with AndroHard, as I believe they are synergistic. SARMS will slightly elevate E2 levels, and Epiandrosterone (Androhard V.1) counteracts that estrogenic effect.

    SARMs S-4 is definitely thermogenic. People find they sweat significantly more in the gym while on it. Anything that affects androgens positively, though, is thermogenic to some degree.

    Where I wouldn't stack SARMs is with another stronger anabolic, like Testosterone or even a strong PH. SARMs are mild anabolics by nature and their effects will easily go unnoticed in the presence of a strong anabolic.

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    My 2 cents that I would like to add is that S4 will cause vision issues!
    At 50mg/day it isn't too bad, but I ramped it up to 75mg/day and it was horrible. I was almost blind at night.
    Be careful on doses!
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    SARMS questions answered here.

    Cobalt, any way to avoid that? And how bad is it? I read on a PP thread that dosing 5 days on 2 days off would help? Any experience with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HIXX504 View Post
    Cobalt, any way to avoid that? And how bad is it? I read on a PP thread that dosing 5 days on 2 days off would help? Any experience with this?
    Use Ostarine instead of S4. I don't think Ostarine causes these issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBG View Post
    Use Ostarine instead of S4. I don't think Ostarine causes these issues.
    Correct. Ostarine= no vision issues. Ostarine also creates less suppression than S4.

    However S4 is better for strength and hardness. S4 vision sides hit me by week 3, personally. I don't dose higher than 50mg/day. However, the vision sides (can't adjust to sudden darkness, yellow halo effect) are temporary and gone in less than a week.

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    SARMS questions answered here.

    Thanks guys
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    SARMS questions answered here.

    I am really disappointed by Osta

    I used it 2 times. First time during 5 weeks for 12.5 to 15mg/day and the second time for 20mg during 6 weeks.

    NO effect on me. No negative, no positive sides

    However I followed recommandations : few minutes under the tongue before swalling.

    I'm maybe Osta resistant or my supplier is not good/legit (lots of review from this known supplier very...unique )
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