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    How many days or weeks was your cycle?

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    R-Andro Cycle #1

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    How many days or weeks was your cycle?
    Iím still on it. Had some erections by a thought.. little things like this,

    I know I asked for advice on this subject but in hindsight it seems like I just needed emotional support cause I knew I was gonna go the whole 6-7 weeks regardless of what anyone told me to be honest. Whenever I get worried & write here, 9 times out of 10 Iím not gonna listen to you guys when you tell me to waiver off something lol.. I trust what Iím doing & read enough posts here to get whatís going on, but as you know, you can read and read but itís different when you live it.

    Before the Andro run I specifically read Faustoís Andro thread, this is what I was expecting..

    Remember, when recovering, the shifting and changing is always good. Thatís when you know your nudging your body. Raising one thing, dropping another.

    Then again my mental will is up there no doubt, Iím willing to go through the shit, willing to lose my mind for something better in the long run. You guys are dealing with a kid who water fated on his own and worked for 21 days...Despite my bitching on the forum many times during downswing thus far that would lead you guys to believe otherwise.

    Looking forward to more suffering... ( David Goggins videos)

    Happy New Year.


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    Hi Rick - just dropping by. Your log and attitude are an inspiration to me at the moment I must say, hope it does you a little good knowing that.

    To focus on the good things, how long have you been on Cdsnuts' protocol so far, and what improvements have you seen from it?

    Very best wishes.

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    R-Andro Cycle #1

    Quote Originally Posted by SS7 View Post
    Hi Rick - just dropping by. Your log and attitude are an inspiration to me at the moment I must say, hope it does you a little good knowing that.

    To focus on the good things, how long have you been on Cdsnuts' protocol so far, and what improvements have you seen from it?

    Very best wishes.
    Whatís up.

    Iíve been on it since May fully.

    I waited 7 months to start my first cycle. but I plan on rotating 21 t boosting herbs for 2 months and cycling for 6 weeks pretty much for the rest of my life after recovery, as well as other things.

    The biggest thing is to just set it up, & get on with your life like this never happened. Most of us struggle with this the most.


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    R-Andro Cycle #1

    Next week will be 6 weeks, I already started my 3rd bottle like a week ago.. I think imma just finish up this bottle, it should put me at 7 weeks, 8 weeks max. I need to buy some time to order some more herbs anyway.

    Iím also digging the little strength bump, I hit 540 for 6 reps on deadlifts yesterday.. . But I still havenít gotten around to my muscles ďfeeling it ďdespite aesthetically looking alright & being strong as fuck even for normal guys & Especially for my body weight (187-190). Fuck this condition, itís not stopping me from being a beast athletically. Screw that.

    The mental sides are still there but a bit better. These prohormones deal with GABA, seretonin etc.. so I get ridiculous lethargy, then at times overstimulation, with anxiety, depression..Lots of chemicals working themselves out in my brain. I actually welcoming the ridiculous lethargy cause it feels drug like.. Iíd sleep 10 hours, wake up and still be in a trance with my eyes barely staying open, taking multiple naps.. itís kind of annoying and it takes more effort to do stuff, but Iíll take this over crippling anxiety any day.

    I get quick moments of DHT itch... I get blood flow and some form of an erection with a sexual thought, and touching it gives a faster response to an erection. Iím not definite about this, it could all be in my head. It seems like Iíll be alright with a woman if Iím on a PDE5. Especially when you throw in the fact that it works better when your with a woman vs by yourself with pfs (interplay of hormones) but the fact that responses are happening with my thoughts alone is a good sign? Maybe.. excuse my indecisive language, Iím never 100% sure of anything when it comes to pfs, I always deny any potential improvement I have in my head to avoid disappointment. Iím not dealing with women anyway cause honestly my confidence level is just not there in this department. Even if things did work, my head ainít there.

    Comforting to know that recovery or not, this is what Iím on Forever. You guys think Iím playing when I say forever lol. By the time Iím 28 (23 now) Iíll have like 25 pro hormone cycles under my belt lol. Iím never stopping.



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    R-Andro Cycle #1

    **Pics doing weighed pull ups


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    R-Andro Cycle #1

    I think the liver has a lot to do with physical shrinkage.. some guys here stated that their nose got smaller, ears got smaller, feet, hands etc... to me my slightly shrunken nose (like Durantia) is deff one of the more freakier symptoms with this thing... idk if the shrinkage and shape change is a pure 5AR DHT thing or a Growth Hormone / insulin growth factor (IGF) issue as a result of 5AR inhibition..
    cause i do remember the sharp pain from what felt like my liver on the drug.

    This is just a theory.

    I havenít researched thoroughly but I assume that many of the herbs hit the liver & build it up like it does with other parts like adrenals/gut. So no worries there.

    Just an observation
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickTheRuler View Post
    **Pics doing weighed pull ups


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    Nice.

    Love weighted pull ups.
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    R-Andro Cycle #1

    Tomorrow will be my last day on this run, I only have enough for 400 mg tomorrow on my 3rd bottle. So exactly 6 weeks.

    Obvious things are the bump in the strength & the insane lethargy/apathy that I have dealt with this whole time, you can throw in at times feeling very overstimulated which led to trouble falling asleep. It was hell but I was hitting PRs all over the place .....the other PFS things seemed to improve but these things get better ever so slowly that itís hard to even tell. I havenít had big explosive surges, it ďfeelsĒ like nothing is happening when youíre tracking symptoms day to day..Iíd have to wait like 2-3 months to look back and assess.

    Kind of reminds me of when I started lifting in high school 5 years ago i could never tell I was getting size since I was checking myself out daily.. I thought I was still skinny, but other people commented. Thatís how it is with these pfs symptoms.

    Should I start my second cycle in 6 weeks? (March 1st), or wait till April? I know the sticky says 8-12 weeks but I see other guys on their own things.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickTheRuler View Post
    Tomorrow will be my last day on this run, I only have enough for 400 mg tomorrow on my 3rd bottle. So exactly 6 weeks.

    Obvious things are the bump in the strength & the insane lethargy/apathy that I have dealt with this whole time, you can throw in at times feeling very overstimulated which led to trouble falling asleep. It was hell but I was hitting PRs all over the place .....the other PFS things seemed to improve but these things get better ever so slowly that it’s hard to even tell. I haven’t had big explosive surges, it “feels” like nothing is happening when you’re tracking symptoms day to day..I’d have to wait like 2-3 months to look back and assess.

    Kind of reminds me of when I started lifting in high school 5 years ago i could never tell I was getting size since I was checking myself out daily.. I thought I was still skinny, but other people commented. That’s how it is with these pfs symptoms.

    Should I start my second cycle in 6 weeks? (March 1st), or wait till April? I know the sticky says 8-12 weeks but I see other guys on their own things.


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    cd says 8-12 weeks in the andro sticky. did u read it? I wait 8
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