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    Worst Things To Do In Recovery

    So we all know what works (the protocol) ..but you guys want to chime in on the things you should avoid in recovery? Things that for sure set you back & rob you from any potential results.

    1. Taking any 5ARi like Fin, Saw Palmetto, Nettle Root, Fenugreek etc.
    2. Alcohol/Drugs
    3. Toxic Pharms
    4. Gluten
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    it should help cause at times people think that if they are not super perfect, they are going backwards. So i and Iím sure others would appreciate more clarity on what you should REALLY avoid. I still deal with this obsessive perfectionist thought loop.

    Unless this is pretty much it.

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    5) Masturbating out of frustration
    6) Comparing yourself to healthy individuals
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    I gotta disagree that pharmas can't ever be helpful. If a sleeping pill is going to make the difference between 5 or 9 hours of quality sleep and/or avoiding a panic attack then I think the pros outweigh the cons there.

    I would add: going on PH or youtube
    stress and being overly obsessive
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    Worst Things To Do In Recovery

    You still getting panic attacks? I thought that was something you get in those early nasty stages.

    Iím thinking about getting a pharm for my skin fungus, the discoloration is all over. Itís not in the category of a nasty rash or something, just think of lighter patches all over. Skin quality is great and soft, but I need my pigmentation to normalize. These little blotches of lighter skin all over my arms has me kind of self conscious.

    Anti fungal topical & oral meds wonít give me any issues? Might make an appointment with a dermatologist for a quick patch up in this regard.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wetaka View Post
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    These, definitely. They only get you down and aren't helpful.

    I'd definitely not stay off PH, there's some great advice there and lots of things to avoid noted. But it's not the place to arrive at in a panic, you'll likely just read the circular horror stories and bring yourself deeper into dark places. There are positive folks there though who really do try and help. It's probably fair to say they haven't got the approach we've got though.

    I'd say avoid everything at the start except a multivitamin maybe, and just get here and on the protocol with all the faith in it you can. Hard to ensure people do though; PFS doesn't even get recognition let alone a manual - dread to think of how many poor, desperate souls stare at their limp selves in the mirror and make things worse on some weird chemical protocol in those awful early weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickTheRuler View Post
    You still getting panic attacks? I thought that was something you get in those early nasty stages.

    I’m thinking about getting a pharm for my skin fungus, the discoloration is all over. It’s not in the category of a nasty rash or something, just think of lighter patches all over. Skin quality is great and soft, but I need my pigmentation to normalize. These little blotches of lighter skin all over my arms has me kind of self conscious.

    Anti fungal topical & oral meds won’t give me any issues? Might make an appointment with a dermatologist for a quick patch up in this regard.




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    I don't get panic attacks, but if I don't get enough sleep or stress myself out somehow, I can still experience the weakness/anhedonic/panicky hell. It's been happening this week trying to adjust to my new asian time zone.

    I'd just research whatever cream you're going to take. It was a skin cream that did this to me (azelaic acid)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SS7 View Post
    These, definitely. They only get you down and aren't helpful.

    I'd definitely not stay off PH, there's some great advice there and lots of things to avoid noted. But it's not the place to arrive at in a panic, you'll likely just read the circular horror stories and bring yourself deeper into dark places. There are positive folks there though who really do try and help. It's probably fair to say they haven't got the approach we've got though.

    I'd say avoid everything at the start except a multivitamin maybe, and just get here and on the protocol with all the faith in it you can. Hard to ensure people do though; PFS doesn't even get recognition let alone a manual - dread to think of how many poor, desperate souls stare at their limp selves in the mirror and make things worse on some weird chemical protocol in those awful early weeks.
    PH can be helpful if you know specifically what you're looking for and don't get sucked into the "circular horror stories" - but it's hard not to because they spread their tentacles of despair into so many threads, lol.

    And yes, a multivitamin and maybe digestive aids if your gut is really messed up.
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    too many orgasms even through sex is a no no for me.

    i've been edging for two weeks and my libido is very close to pre pfs when I do this. the prolactin' dopamine surge even through sex can be done when done too much for me.
    From rock bottom to rockstar, baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacknap View Post
    too many orgasms even through sex is a no no for me.

    i've been edging for two weeks and my libido is very close to pre pfs when I do this. the prolactin' dopamine surge even through sex can be done when done too much for me.
    Have you noticed a difference in ejac control during sex regards to the edging?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    Have you noticed a difference in ejac control during sex regards to the edging?
    sorry don't think I understand your question?

    It gets a bit more difficult because it just gets more and more sensitive so I can't pound hard for super long. I have to go slower tempo.
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