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    Quote Originally Posted by xxaleksi View Post
    Yeah muscle gelz
    Noice!

    That's what I'm cycling at that moment for 1st cycle, now on 2nd week and feeling pretty good on it but wanted to try the the other andro hard's for 2nd +3rd cycle, but if it's not broke why fix it!

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    Bumped the dosage up to 6 pumps morning and night. Haven't really felt anything yet, but it's still early days. Maybe a bit more strength and aggression at the gym.

    Also had a 30 minute sauna today and felt great. Haven't had one of those since my juice feast, 11 months ago.
    Last edited by xxaleksi; 01-16-2020 at 02:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxaleksi View Post
    Hey fellas, I don't think I've ever done a post showing the routine I'm doing in detail. So I thought might as well do it. I've been on the protocol since February 2019.

    Juice Feast:

    Did seven days, after which I began the protocol.

    Herbs:

    Ant Extract
    Ashwagandha Tincture
    Schisandra
    Eleuthero
    Horny Goat Weed
    He Shou Wu
    Royal Jelly
    Tongkat Ali
    Shilajit Resin
    Cistanche
    Goji Berry
    Mucuna
    Cordyceps
    Pine Pollen Tincture
    Muira Puama
    Butea Superba
    Catuaba Bark
    Suma Root

    I also take two tablespoons of pine pollen powder daily. Currently not taking it though as I ran out a while ago and have been waiting for more to arrive. Therefore I'm currently taking the tincture daily. I also used to have Rhodiola on here too, but I ran out back in September. Lost Empire doesn't seem to have Rhodiola anymore, so if anyone knows a good quality brand that ships to Europe feel free to let me know.

    Supplements:

    Chlorella
    Spirulina
    Vitamin D 10,000 iu
    Magnesium

    I take all of these at night.

    Diet:

    Paleo style diet with carb backloading after workouts.

    Meats and fish: Beef, pork, bacon, lamb, chicken, turkey, tuna, salmon
    Fruits: Apples, pears, bananas, strawberries, raspberries
    Vegetables: Spinach, broccoli, kale
    Spices: Sea salt, black pepper, oregano
    Drinks: Water, coconut water

    I also eat plenty of eggs during the day.

    Carb backloading on workout days: White rice, gluten free pasta

    Exercise:

    Four gym days a week.

    Day 1: Back
    Day 2: Arms
    Day 3: Chest/Shoulders
    Day 4: Legs/Abs

    HIIT on Wednesdays/Sundays.

    Other Lifestyle:

    Cold showers every morning and night
    Skin brushing in the shower
    Breathing exercises morning and night
    Limiting masturbation
    Avoiding xenoestrogens
    No alcohol
    No caffeine
    Sun exposure 30 minutes per day whenever possible

    Prohormones:

    I've done two cycles of Andro Hard by Muscle Gelz.

    Cycle #1 was four weeks at 400mg/day
    Cycle #2 was five weeks at 400mg/day.

    All of this stuff is just a part of my life these days, so it feels like I'm just living my life and not "doing a protocol". Just gotta wait to get back to 100%. By the way, if anyone notices something I might be doing wrong, please feel free to tell me. Thanks!
    Sorry, is this correct you are doing 2 *TBSP* of pine pollen daily? Because on the package it says recommended dose 1/2-1 *TSP* 1-2x daily. So you are doing TBSP not TSP right? If so I might try a bigger dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slader1 View Post
    Sorry, is this correct you are doing 2 *TBSP* of pine pollen daily? Because on the package it says recommended dose 1/2-1 *TSP* 1-2x daily. So you are doing TBSP not TSP right? If so I might try a bigger dose.
    Yeah I do two tablespoons a day. Lost Empire has two dosing recommendations for PP, the normal dose and the megadose. The normal dose is three teaspoons daily, and the megadose is three tablespoons daily. Hope that clears it up bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxaleksi View Post
    Yeah I do two tablespoons a day. Lost Empire has two dosing recommendations for PP, the normal dose and the megadose. The normal dose is three teaspoons daily, and the megadose is three tablespoons daily. Hope that clears it up bro.
    Hey dude. What's the reasoning behind taking the powder daily and not the tincture? I've been taking the tincture daily since I thought that was the one that was recommended? Should I be taking the powder instead and cycling the tincture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnover25 View Post
    Hey dude. What's the reasoning behind taking the powder daily and not the tincture? I've been taking the tincture daily since I thought that was the one that was recommended? Should I be taking the powder instead and cycling the tincture?
    As far as I know, it's common practice for those running herbs to take the PP powder daily and cycle the PP tincture. I'm also rolling this way. Read up more on LEH, but the general theory is that the powder is more like a super food containing many vitamins, minerals, and aminos. It also has some T boosting properties to a lesser degree than the tincture. The tincture is used almost specifically for it's T boosting properties and does not contain the vitamins and minerals that the powder does due to it's alcohol process. You can build up a tolerance to the tincture, but not the powder. I could have missed a couple of details, but that is the skinny on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meegs View Post
    As far as I know, it's common practice for those running herbs to take the PP powder daily and cycle the PP tincture. I'm also rolling this way. Read up more on LEH, but the general theory is that the powder is more like a super food containing many vitamins, minerals, and aminos. It also has some T boosting properties to a lesser degree than the tincture. The tincture is used almost specifically for it's T boosting properties and does not contain the vitamins and minerals that the powder does due to it's alcohol process. You can build up a tolerance to the tincture, but not the powder. I could have missed a couple of details, but that is the skinny on it.
    Thanks man. I'm going to switch over to the powder as of today. This is great news because it makes me feel great, I just didn't know we could take it every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meegs View Post
    As far as I know, it's common practice for those running herbs to take the PP powder daily and cycle the PP tincture. I'm also rolling this way. Read up more on LEH, but the general theory is that the powder is more like a super food containing many vitamins, minerals, and aminos. It also has some T boosting properties to a lesser degree than the tincture. The tincture is used almost specifically for it's T boosting properties and does not contain the vitamins and minerals that the powder does due to it's alcohol process. You can build up a tolerance to the tincture, but not the powder. I could have missed a couple of details, but that is the skinny on it.
    Great explanation^

    Sums it up pretty well.

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    Had a cup of black tea today after a year without caffeine. I'll have this every morning from now on and see how I respond.

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    I've been reading studies about black tea, and looks like it can reduce DHT by quite a bit, and according to one study, even more than fin. Should I drop it? I've had one cup yesterday and one today. Or am I worrying needlessly here?

    Thanks guys.
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    As with everything. Not doing it it daily is probably the safest way, so we don't get tipped over to any side^^
    But ye I remember back then too, ppl thinking usually green tea as dht inhibitor but actually black tea seems to be the most potent one. I still have it several times a week. Black tea with lemon and honey is just the best thing xD

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