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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnover25 View Post
    Feeling a little better now that I have been off the prohormones for about a week, not sure if I got a lot of benefit from that last cycle because I started so early, but my body just started dreaming naturally again.

    Iíve made some serious strides in the past year in spite of eating sugar/sweets often, drinking alcohol, caffeine, processed foods, not all the time but more than Iíd like to admit. I am just hellbent on getting rid of my brain fog now, itís not as bad but still hasnít lifted. Hereís the new additions on top of the protocol-

    No alcohol
    No sugar (besides fruits)
    No red meat (brain fog)
    No grains
    No high GI carbs (due to brain fog) only bananas and things like that
    No caffeine (brain fog, but have wanted to give this up for years)
    Eat plenty of sauerkraut and shit like that

    Paleo diet aiming at foods good for the thyroid, ie no cruciferous veggies, which make me feel like shit

    Basically following a diet that is along the same lines as Japanther and Mitch, who were both sufferers of the same shit as me, who managed to beat it.

    No electronics after 9, bed by 10:30
    No social media
    Intermittent fasting, eating window noon-8

    Gonna do another water fast here soon, and probably a dopamine fast just to see what thatís all about. Basically gonna sit in my apartment and stare at a wall for 2 days straight, take walks, etc.

    Things Iím left stuck with-

    Brain fog/neurological bs (aka bad short term memory, dizzy spells, vision, disconnect)
    Anhedonia (I think itís improving)
    Libido
    Dry skin
    Could be more? Idk. Those are the only ones I notice

    Edit: Iím also not in a horrible place anymore. Recently moved to Denver, Colorado, and I work as an accountant. Iíve taken huge strides from where I came from, which was being completely unable to function. But itís time to finally beat this shit
    When you're on the prohormones do those symptoms go away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    And you will......the last part is always the longest and hardest because you're close enough to know you can feel normal again but you're just not quite there yet....Just keep doing what you were doing. (Except the alcohol and party favors, because believe me, they're doing you NO favors)

    And you get benefit from every cycle whether you feel it or not. Some cycles are more "behind the scenes" and some are in your face. Either way things are happening biologically regardless of the state you're in. That being said, they will run you down if you're not on top of it.

    If you're that hell bent on getting rid of the brain fog, you really should be sober for a few months....it makes that much of a difference. If you have to do something, well you're living in the perfect state for it!

    You got this.

    Out of curiosity, where did you move from?
    Thanks for the support as always. I got ahead of myself the past 4 months or so, the move was a big one. I started meeting all New people, doing all new things, and the prohormones had me feeling great all the time so I started drinking and letting loose, I think it might have been needed because I had a lot of fun, but now I had my fun and Iím really starting to buckle down.

    I agree with the cycles, even though I felt run down and that I didnít get anything out of it, Iím now dreaming consistently again, every single night, after this last cycle. I thought anhedonia was lifting but I havenít had any sparks of emotions in a few weeks, that one is so tricky.

    Also, I came from West Michigan. I grew up about 30 min from Lake Michigan. If youíve never been, I recommend. The beaches are amazing and itís a nice quiet place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MungYarlon View Post
    When you're on the prohormones do those symptoms go away?
    Sometimes, itís give or take. My brain fog has seen alot of improvements, and thereís been times on cycle where I can think very clearly, but the entire state of it has never lifted entirely yet. Itís hard to explain. Itís not just that my memory is bad, itís a slew of multiple neurological symptoms dealing with memory, motor function, vision, decision making, senses. Hard to explain.

    Anhedonia improves while on cycles, emotions flicker and spark. Havenít stuck yet though.

    Libido definitely improves. Dry skin I havenít noticed improvement in a while
    Last edited by Turnover25; 08-29-2021 at 09:30 AM.

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    Donít want to jinx anything, but as of the past week or so my anhedonia feels like itís lifting. Feeling more emotions and more normal, might finally be experiencing the SnapBack from my previous 2 cycles. Iíll update if I notice anything else.

    Keep pushing boys!

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    @Cdsnuts do you think doing a 2 day water fast will have benefits? Been wanting to do a little reboot while I have a couple days off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnover25 View Post
    @Cdsnuts do you think doing a 2 day water fast will have benefits? Been wanting to do a little reboot while I have a couple days off
    It depends how clean you are. This is what I mean. When you start a water fast, it typically takes the body three days to get into the deep cleaning state. If you start a fast and stop after two days, you could stop the fast right as waste is emptying into your blood stream to be processed out. So again, it depends how clean you are. I'd say that a two day juice feast would be the better option because of the length of time

    You would get more benefit from the juice feast.
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    Day 6 of UltraHard stacked with Alpha Four, I feel literally no effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnover25 View Post
    Day 6 of UltraHard stacked with Alpha Four, I feel literally no effect
    Dude this is so strange. I stopped a UH cycle 2 weeks in last month after not feeling it for the first time. Is there a chance UH has weakened the dose?

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    Itís super weird that we have both responded really well to it in the past and suddenly felt no effect. How can that be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks View Post
    Dude this is so strange. I stopped a UH cycle 2 weeks in last month after not feeling it for the first time. Is there a chance UH has weakened the dose?

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    Itís super weird that we have both responded really well to it in the past and suddenly felt no effect. How can that be?
    Not sure man, anyone have any ideas?

    If anything I feel like itís making me worse, I think Iím going to drop the Four.

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    Can we loop in Rob or something to confirm UH potency has stayed the same compared to earlier in the year? I just find it so odd you and I didnít feel anything. Is your UH bottle new? I thought it was just me until I saw you say the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks View Post
    Can we loop in Rob or something to confirm UH potency has stayed the same compared to earlier in the year? I just find it so odd you and I didnít feel anything. Is your UH bottle new? I thought it was just me until I saw you say the same thing
    Let me get back to you once Iíve been on the Alpha Four for a few days, I feel like thatís the problem. I didnít use it today and I feel a little better, might be placebo of course.

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