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    I'm an idiot.. looking for some reassurance.

    Hey guys

    I was a Dutasteride/Avodart user in 2017 for 8 months on and off for hair loss. My last pill was in early July 2017 because I was freaking out on side effects. I had a rollercoaster recovery since then and initially had a few weeks where I was feeling fully recovered, then sides again, then started going a month or more feeling fully recovered about a year later. I did herb cycles - pine pollen, ashwagandha, pregnenolone, magnesium supps, aminos etc. throughout this period.

    Morning wood was the elusive one though. I decided to get on Cialis, buying 20mg pills and cutting them into quarters to make it a daily dose. Been doing that on and off since April or so this year. It's great, really takes away any worries you get about boners but still no consistent morning wood.

    Forward to last month, I was a huge massive idiot and decided I would try finasteride 1mg. HUGE REGRET. I ONLY CAME TO MY SENSES AGAIN AFTER 4 WEEKS. WHY THE HELL DID I PLAY WITH FIRE AGAIN?? I'M FEELING THAT SAME HORRIBLE REGRET I FELT FOR DUTASTERIDE. I'm throwing them in the trash where they belong.

    So now here I am, my last pill was 3 days ago. Questions:

    1) What should I do first? I've started taking pregnenolone again, still taking a quarter Cialis pill every day which is still working great despite the poison hair pills. Is DHEA a good idea? Your DHT receptors should be more sensitive after fin so I'm thinking to maximise DHT use creatine and DHEA right now?

    2) If I got decent recovery from dutasteride (which by all accounts is much stronger and longer lasting then fin), I should be able to get recovery from finasteride right? Anyone else here who have done both I would love to hear your recovery

    3) Is there any correlation to length of treatment and side effects? Is 1 month short enough for the fin to be out of my body fairly quickly? I want to start healing asap and put this behind me.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoloch View Post
    Hey guys

    I was a Dutasteride/Avodart user in 2017 for 8 months on and off for hair loss. My last pill was in early July 2017 because I was freaking out on side effects. I had a rollercoaster recovery since then and initially had a few weeks where I was feeling fully recovered, then sides again, then started going a month or more feeling fully recovered about a year later. I did herb cycles - pine pollen, ashwagandha, pregnenolone, magnesium supps, aminos etc. throughout this period.

    Morning wood was the elusive one though. I decided to get on Cialis, buying 20mg pills and cutting them into quarters to make it a daily dose. Been doing that on and off since April or so this year. It's great, really takes away any worries you get about boners but still no consistent morning wood.

    Forward to last month, I was a huge massive idiot and decided I would try finasteride 1mg. HUGE REGRET. I ONLY CAME TO MY SENSES AGAIN AFTER 4 WEEKS. WHY THE HELL DID I PLAY WITH FIRE AGAIN?? I'M FEELING THAT SAME HORRIBLE REGRET I FELT FOR DUTASTERIDE. I'm throwing them in the trash where they belong.

    So now here I am, my last pill was 3 days ago. Questions:

    1) What should I do first? I've started taking pregnenolone again, still taking a quarter Cialis pill every day which is still working great despite the poison hair pills. Is DHEA a good idea? Your DHT receptors should be more sensitive after fin so I'm thinking to maximise DHT use creatine and DHEA right now?

    2) If I got decent recovery from dutasteride (which by all accounts is much stronger and longer lasting then fin), I should be able to get recovery from finasteride right? Anyone else here who have done both I would love to hear your recovery

    3) Is there any correlation to length of treatment and side effects? Is 1 month short enough for the fin to be out of my body fairly quickly? I want to start healing asap and put this behind me.

    Thanks

    First things first I think you need to relax. Youíre not very far into this, you could still get better. Donít stress yourself out over this. If you donít start feeling better, youíve found the right place. Iím no expert but I know stress is what you have to avoid. And donít go reading horror stories, avoid that like the plague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnover25 View Post
    First things first I think you need to relax. You’re not very far into this, you could still get better. Don’t stress yourself out over this. If you don’t start feeling better, you’ve found the right place. I’m no expert but I know stress is what you have to avoid. And don’t go reading horror stories, avoid that like the plague.
    Hey, thanks. When I was recovering from the dutasteride it was periods of feeling crappy then feeling better again. I guess I jumped on the finasteride because I was going through a crappy time and thought if the dut has phuked me then I might aswell have hair. Man, I really regret going on the fin but I guess all I can do now is get on the routine.

    I've already read plenty of horror stories so too late for that (that's actually how I found this forum anyway)

    Please if anyone here has used both dutasteride and finasteride could you let me know how recovery is going? Finasteride can't be any worse than dutasteride can it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoloch View Post
    Hey guys

    I was a Dutasteride/Avodart user in 2017 for 8 months on and off for hair loss. My last pill was in early July 2017 because I was freaking out on side effects. I had a rollercoaster recovery since then and initially had a few weeks where I was feeling fully recovered, then sides again, then started going a month or more feeling fully recovered about a year later. I did herb cycles - pine pollen, ashwagandha, pregnenolone, magnesium supps, aminos etc. throughout this period.

    Morning wood was the elusive one though. I decided to get on Cialis, buying 20mg pills and cutting them into quarters to make it a daily dose. Been doing that on and off since April or so this year. It's great, really takes away any worries you get about boners but still no consistent morning wood.

    Forward to last month, I was a huge massive idiot and decided I would try finasteride 1mg. HUGE REGRET. I ONLY CAME TO MY SENSES AGAIN AFTER 4 WEEKS. WHY THE HELL DID I PLAY WITH FIRE AGAIN?? I'M FEELING THAT SAME HORRIBLE REGRET I FELT FOR DUTASTERIDE. I'm throwing them in the trash where they belong.

    So now here I am, my last pill was 3 days ago. Questions:

    1) What should I do first? I've started taking pregnenolone again, still taking a quarter Cialis pill every day which is still working great despite the poison hair pills. Is DHEA a good idea? Your DHT receptors should be more sensitive after fin so I'm thinking to maximise DHT use creatine and DHEA right now?

    2) If I got decent recovery from dutasteride (which by all accounts is much stronger and longer lasting then fin), I should be able to get recovery from finasteride right? Anyone else here who have done both I would love to hear your recovery

    3) Is there any correlation to length of treatment and side effects? Is 1 month short enough for the fin to be out of my body fairly quickly? I want to start healing asap and put this behind me.

    Thanks
    First let go of all regret, shame, doubt and other emotions/thoughts that will only serve as road blocks on your path to recovery.

    Get on the protocol when youre done reading this. It will put your mind at ease and serve as an insurance if you will so that you continue in good health. Its better than sitting around worrying and beating yourself up. Be proactive, thats a major lesson I've learned from this.

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    I had doubts too and I'm recovered but I just stuck to the protocol. Mostly stuck to reading recovery peoples posts (cdnuts, entropy, english, maxout) and people who had a good attitude along the journy (tubzy, ricky)

    the time will pass anyways give yourself a shot for 1-2 years following the teachings of someone who's been there done that CD and you'll be pleasantly surprised by the result. All this stuff is good for general health anyways so not really have anything to lose besides missing out on a few hang overs and late night mcdonalds binges.
    From rock bottom to rockstar, baby.

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    What's up everyone? Hope the recoveries are going well. Thanks for everyone who responded. I've calmed down a little bit and started some things since I made this thread, but man the pain of regret still stings. Wtf was I thinking?

    Started some new daily supps:
    Maca
    Anti-Estrogen supps (grape seed extract + stinging nettle root)
    Choline bitartrate (hopefully going to help with mood)
    Bulk powders supergreen (not a substitute for a good vegetable diet but there are a lot of good things in here like spirulina)
    Recently added creatine for hopefully increased DHT

    Next up I will be adding:
    Pine Pollen Tincture
    Protodioscin Tribulus

    Also planning my prohormone cycle, but scared of a rise in Estrogen. I'm very high body fat (>30%, 5'8" and around 215lbs) at the minute and do need to lose weight (been extremely demotivated recently) so I don't need any more estrogen. Are herbal anti estrogens even effective for pct?

    Also still taking cialis/tadalafil at 2.5mg every day (cutting a 20mg pill) to make sure blood flow stays good throughout my body. I've had 2 pretty interesting experiences with this, it apparently takes around 2 hours to kick in but I got extremely turned on and had a solid erection just 15 mins after ingesting last week. It also apparently lasts for up to 36 hours but also last week I skipped a day and around 42 hours after my last dose I had the best arousal and erections I've had in ages. Even better than when Cialis blood concentration supposedly peaks after a few hours. Placebo?

    I'm soon going to stop the cialias as I don't want to become psychologicailly dependent on it.

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    Nettle root is a 5ari. I'd drop it.

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