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    Fuck me. I’m back.

    Little update: I’ve been doing great. Upswings are lasting weeks. Brain fog, anhedonia, & all it entails are intermittent and short. Energy, overall sense of well being, etc have all dramatically improved. What’s interesting is my resting heart rate, which climbed from high 30s/low 40s to low 60s/mid 60s has been coming down to low 50s/40s (a good thing). I don’t wear my whoop anymore, but I’m sure my bottomed out HRV is probably significantly higher too. Morning wood, nocturnal erections every day/night. Libido and spont boners are increasing slowly too. All in all, great stuff. I’ve been following protocol except for meditation (makes my sense of disconnect/emotional blunting worse) and cold showers. I jump in a river 2x a week and am going to start doing showers every day now. Everyone else do meditation, it’s probably good for you. I just want to hold onto my ego.

    Anyways, what hasn’t been going well and I’m fucking pissed is my dick. About a month after stopping fin I developed the fabled hourglass that would rear its ugly fucking shape every time I pissed or my cock was cold. It wasn’t pronounced with an erection though, only half chubs and what I listed above. I don’t know when but I developed pretty deep indents all up the left side of my shaft that show when erect, presumably from whatever is causing the hourglass. Like a ribbed jimmy. This improved slightly overtime but has always been there and the indents haven’t moved. I started pumping diligently the last two months to sort this out. I flew too close to the sun and over pumped once. Took a deep breath and let the little guy sit for a week. Anyways, since then ~4 weeks~ the indents have become worse, I’ve developed some on my right side, and have a couple more on the left. Furthermore, my dick has gone from a 7x5.5 to a fuckin 6.25x5 and seems to be getting worse. Feels too skinny in my hand. Also starting to have mild pain with boners and weaker erections.

    CD – and whoever else has experienced this – is this Peyronies or a weird consequence of fin that mimics Peyronies? Does this resolve? If so, is it one of the last to go? I’m a year & 3 months off. A little over a year on protocol.

    I’ve read the Peyronies forum. COQ10, L-Arg, L-Carnitine, Vit E are recommended. Do these fit in with protocol and has anybody been fucked by anything listed above?

    All in all, I’m unsure of how to proceed. PFS is a fucking minefield and I don’t want to step on any mines, especially ones disguised as things that are supposed to help. I’m hesitant to keep pumping, as this coincided with this flare up and seems like it could be making it worse.

    Thanks for the advice in advance. Take care of yourselves.

    Any PH’er’s and children stay off my post. Cooper I’m looking at you.

    Ratchet

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    Maxout once mentioned that it is a receptor issue and resolved overtime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratchet View Post
    Fuck me. I’m back.

    Little update: I’ve been doing great. Upswings are lasting weeks. Brain fog, anhedonia, & all it entails are intermittent and short. Energy, overall sense of well being, etc have all dramatically improved. What’s interesting is my resting heart rate, which climbed from high 30s/low 40s to low 60s/mid 60s has been coming down to low 50s/40s (a good thing). I don’t wear my whoop anymore, but I’m sure my bottomed out HRV is probably significantly higher too. Morning wood, nocturnal erections every day/night. Libido and spont boners are increasing slowly too. All in all, great stuff. I’ve been following protocol except for meditation (makes my sense of disconnect/emotional blunting worse) and cold showers. I jump in a river 2x a week and am going to start doing showers every day now. Everyone else do meditation, it’s probably good for you. I just want to hold onto my ego.

    Anyways, what hasn’t been going well and I’m fucking pissed is my dick. About a month after stopping fin I developed the fabled hourglass that would rear its ugly fucking shape every time I pissed or my cock was cold. It wasn’t pronounced with an erection though, only half chubs and what I listed above. I don’t know when but I developed pretty deep indents all up the left side of my shaft that show when erect, presumably from whatever is causing the hourglass. Like a ribbed jimmy. This improved slightly overtime but has always been there and the indents haven’t moved. I started pumping diligently the last two months to sort this out. I flew too close to the sun and over pumped once. Took a deep breath and let the little guy sit for a week. Anyways, since then ~4 weeks~ the indents have become worse, I’ve developed some on my right side, and have a couple more on the left. Furthermore, my dick has gone from a 7x5.5 to a fuckin 6.25x5 and seems to be getting worse. Feels too skinny in my hand. Also starting to have mild pain with boners and weaker erections.

    CD – and whoever else has experienced this – is this Peyronies or a weird consequence of fin that mimics Peyronies? Does this resolve? If so, is it one of the last to go? I’m a year & 3 months off. A little over a year on protocol.

    I’ve read the Peyronies forum. COQ10, L-Arg, L-Carnitine, Vit E are recommended. Do these fit in with protocol and has anybody been fucked by anything listed above?

    All in all, I’m unsure of how to proceed. PFS is a fucking minefield and I don’t want to step on any mines, especially ones disguised as things that are supposed to help. I’m hesitant to keep pumping, as this coincided with this flare up and seems like it could be making it worse.

    Thanks for the advice in advance. Take care of yourselves.

    Any PH’er’s and children stay off my post. Cooper I’m looking at you.

    Ratchet
    First off, congrats on your progress thus far. It's been well earned.

    In regards to your current issue, I wouldn't stop pumping, but I wouldn't overdo it either. This will go away eventually, as does all else. Just stop going "too close to the sun" for your own good. The pumping wouldn't cause these problems, only help them, so this is just a coincidence that it coincided with your pumping injury.

    Just keep grinding man. This too, shall pass. Before you know it you'll be posting in the recovery section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdsnuts View Post
    First off, congrats on your progress thus far. It's been well earned.

    In regards to your current issue, I wouldn't stop pumping, but I wouldn't overdo it either. This will go away eventually, as does all else. Just stop going "too close to the sun" for your own good. The pumping wouldn't cause these problems, only help them, so this is just a coincidence that it coincided with your pumping injury.

    Just keep grinding man. This too, shall pass. Before you know it you'll be posting in the recovery section.
    You had this happen as well? Aka the indentation, reduced size, etc? I’m just worried that after stable progress and a year off it all of sudden became worse. I don’t want to lose any more inches.

    When you pump, do you pump to fully erect or just like 50%? When I over pumped everything felt okay until I pulled out of it, then there was just numbness and swelling, so no way to really tell what’s too much when I’m in the tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratchet View Post
    You had this happen as well? Aka the indentation, reduced size, etc? I’m just worried that after stable progress and a year off it all of sudden became worse. I don’t want to lose any more inches.

    When you pump, do you pump to fully erect or just like 50%? When I over pumped everything felt okay until I pulled out of it, then there was just numbness and swelling, so no way to really tell what’s too much when I’m in the tube.
    I lost size in general during the worst of the nightmare. Length and girth...mostly girth. Pencil dick....well, that's what it felt like in my hand compared to how it usually felt.

    The pumping isn't going to shrink your dick, if anything, it's going to give it size, especially right after a session. There has to be something else going on or you're just in a bad downswing. Sometimes during healing when things start going good you'll get hit with a bad one....it happens. Don't panic.

    When I pump, I pump to fully FULL, not erect.....there is a difference when pumping. You don't actually want to get excited.....you just have to fully relax and let your cock fill up SLOWLY, over the course of pumping. It's not like it's a hard on more so a water balloon filled to the max with fluid. No sexual thoughts at all when I do it....just a manual fill up of the unit.

    You can feel when you're over doing it as it will usually start to hurt or "pinch," that's when you know you have to back down on the pressure. Some swelling is normal, but not numbness.

    Pump till it's full, but doesn't hurt, then let it just set like that for the duration of the five minute set. When you release it, pull out your dick and grab it by the base, smack it up and down against your stomach and have it swing down past your balls (I pull my balls to the side so they don't get hit). Whip it like this up an down for five seconds or so to get the new blood moving, then reinsert and go for rep two, same thing for rep three.

    By the end you should have a nice, meaty hang. It's normal for the glans to be a little distorted by the end of the session. As long as there is no pain or numbness, you're good to go.
    Last edited by Cdsnuts; 01-20-2021 at 02:23 PM.
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    Going to hit a 7+ day water fast here to hopefully rid my unit of this plaque and reverse whatever is going on. The hourglass was manageable, but now there are dents all along the underside, right side, and it hurts to hold an erection, however soft it may be. I don’t want to wait around and watch these things harden and strangle my guy. Which sucks, cause I feel like I was making some serious progress and I know that a fast like this will definitely move me back in the short term. Anyone see any issue with this? It doesn’t sound like most guys here are having this issue with their dick, especially this far along in their journey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratchet View Post
    Going to hit a 7+ day water fast here to hopefully rid my unit of this plaque and reverse whatever is going on. The hourglass was manageable, but now there are dents all along the underside, right side, and it hurts to hold an erection, however soft it may be. I don’t want to wait around and watch these things harden and strangle my guy. Which sucks, cause I feel like I was making some serious progress and I know that a fast like this will definitely move me back in the short term. Anyone see any issue with this? It doesn’t sound like most guys here are having this issue with their dick, especially this far along in their journey.
    When was the last time you fasted? A year ago plus? If so, a nice seven day tune up may be just what the doctor ordered.....nothing wrong with cleansing.
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    Did a 5 day in Jan 2020, a 5 day in May, so it will be ~8 months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratchet View Post
    Did a 5 day in Jan 2020, a 5 day in May, so it will be ~8 months ago.
    Then go for it.

    I did four total water fasts during my road to recovery although it wasn't done in the way that I recommend now, it was still paramount to leading me to recovery. A cleanse is ALWAYS beneficial for the system......always.

    Go for seven days this time if you can swing it. The longer, the better.
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    Hey guys. Sad ratchet here. It seems I really fucked my dick up. I developed new plaques a few weeks ago that coincided with pumping. I have indents all along the right side of my penis now, as well as one on the underside that is easily felt on the long, blood filled tube going up the middle of your underside dick. I haven’t had any nocturnal erections since these formed, the tip of my dick is always very cold, I can’t get an erection at all really. Hard flaccid really bad. I tried to continue pumping really gently just to inflate the thing and it seems to be aggravating things/making them worse. I’m truly heartbroken because I’ve come so far just to have this happen. To happen after a breakup. I know stress is playing a significant role here, but I can’t even get it up myself with 10mg of cialis flowing through my veins. I was okay going from a 7”x6” to a 6.25”x5, but I have a horrible feeling this is going to get a lot worse with my current situation overtime. The silver lining is that my hourglass is gone, but only because I have something in the right side counteracting whatever was on the left causing the hourglass to begin with.

    If this were to resolve and my dick was back to its old glory – I’d put myself at 98% recovered. I only have small bouts of brain fog and no libido that come and go. No libido at all now, obviously. I got my bloods done recently and everything is perfect, even by the strict standards more informed medical/fitness practitioners would use.

    I don’t want to scare anyone away from pumping, it honestly does miracles for most. Pay attention to your body and ask yourself beforehand if you could be happy with what you had. I would trade my current situation for my old one in a heart beat and would have never tried. I’m not going to concede that’s it’s over yet, but I am feeling hopeless at the moment.

    There was a time I told myself I would live as a eunuch as long as I got my mind and body back, so I am truly grateful for all of the progress I have made. I might just eat those words tho. Life goes on.

    All the best – fuck gluten

    Ratchet

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